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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-09-15 05:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #1351 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1351 ⌋

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[identity profile] tacky-tramp.livejournal.com 2010-09-15 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
By whose standards today? Fashion photographers? Yes. Average folks? No.

Sorry, but as someone who actually wears plus sizes, I don't understand why people feel the need to act like slim women are not slim, ~but we love them anyway~. Snooki and Christina Hendricks in particular.

[identity profile] ishosophy.livejournal.com 2010-09-15 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
AND IF ALL ELSE FAILS, THERE'S ALWAYS PHOTOSHOP

[identity profile] threeonetwo.livejournal.com 2010-09-15 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is exactly what I was saying. I don't think she's fat, I even said that in my comment. Fake tan aside, I think she's gorgeous. But to a lot of people, even those who know the media's standards of beauty are insane, she's not.

[identity profile] threeonetwo.livejournal.com 2010-09-15 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I said right in my comment that I don't agree with society's "If you're over a size 0 you are fat" thing. But a whole lot of "average folks" do take the ideas of fashion photographers to heart.

That's how we end up with the whole slim-women-aren't-slim bullcrap, which is what OP was probably talking about when mentioning the ideal body type.

Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, I was just trying to bring up that for a lot of people, average isn't ideal. It should be, but it isn't.

[identity profile] tacky-tramp.livejournal.com 2010-09-15 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough. I suppose that as someone who is way farther from the ideal than Snooki, I find it a little silly to suggest that Snooki's being transgressive and brave by daring to go out in public in a bathing suit. But perhaps I'm not being sympathetic enough to the body issues that average-to-slender women face.

[identity profile] threeonetwo.livejournal.com 2010-09-15 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I never said she was being transgressive or brave. I'm just pointing out that because of the way society thinks women should look, an average-looking girl like her not caring about her weight is a surprise for some people. Especially since she's a celebrity.

[identity profile] tacky-tramp.livejournal.com 2010-09-15 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you didn't, but the original secret implies that.

And do we know that she doesn't care about her weight? I've seen about five minutes of her on television.

[identity profile] threeonetwo.livejournal.com 2010-09-15 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen much of anything about her, but from OP's secret it sounds like she doesn't care too much.

...Annnd now I looked up "snooki weight" and found an article saying she does want to lose weight. But it's just 10 lbs, which is ok-ish I guess. Or so I thought until it said she's on some kind of diet that involves one meal a day and some cookies. I'm not sure what the logic is behind that at all :(

[identity profile] fun-french-fri.livejournal.com 2010-09-15 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I find it a little silly to suggest that Snooki's being transgressive and brave by daring to go out in public in a bathing suit.

Nobody is saying this. Snooki doesn't give a shit about what people think of her. She says something dumb? Whatever. She can't get into a club? She dances on the boardwalk alone. She knows gossip mags and tv shows make fun of her looks but she's still out there on the beach, tanning, being ridiculous, etc. OP is taking inspiration from this attitude. OP never said Snooki was fat, it's that Snooki is a famous person with a non-ideal body and this is encouraging.

But perhaps I'm not being sympathetic enough to the body issues that average-to-slender women face.

I'm pretty sure almost all women have some sort of body issue. OP found a positive way to get over hers. idk, why are we telling her Sorry, Snooki isn't transgressive enough, find another inspiration?

[identity profile] tacky-tramp.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not telling her that at all, and I'm sorry if I came across that way.

[identity profile] fun-french-fri.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
If you didn't mean that, it's fine.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but this woman is obviously larger than Christina Hendricks.