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fandomsecrets2010-09-15 05:14 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2010-09-15 05:14 pm
[ SECRET POST #1351 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1351 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 111 secrets from Secret Submission Post #193.
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You hit the nail on the head. My mom (who was in English major in college) said that Tolkien basically wrote the books to show how ~clever and ~smart he was by throwing in tons of literary and other references. The joy from reading this books comes more from getting the references rather than a deep and engaging storyline.
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But showing "how ~clever and ~smart he was"? Seriously, when it comes to throwing in obvious literary references, you can do a lot worse than that. Yes, he liked reusing Old English, Old Norse names or story, and it can be a pleasure to spot them, but I doubt it was done as smugly as you make it to be.
As for the absence of a "deep and engaging storyline"...Well, YMMV, of course, but I beg to differ.
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I can understand someone not liking it, though I really liked it. I can't understand the whole "he was trying to be clever" thing, though, at all.
Basically inventing my favorite genre ever = being a braggart? SRSLY INTERNET?
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(Anonymous) 2010-09-16 05:12 am (UTC)(link)no subject
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Eh, YMMV. I love it for the characters: Sam and Pippin especially. And I love it because it really does evoke the feeling of being far from home. It's something that didn't click so much when I first read them, but when I was away in college, Pippin's distance from Merry was something I related to, and when I moved to a completely different country for half a year, it struck home even moreso.
I also liked the visual images I got reading it. But yeah, I have to admit, it's not really for everyone.
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I love the books.
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Bad writers will often write about the heroes' triumph as all perfect and yay. But nowadays it's kind of a fad for everything to be Dark and for the heroes to Lose, just so they're not Winning.
Tolkien wrote about how even Winning has its price.
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It's obviously a deep and engaging storyline for an awful lot of people, because it basically created a genre and writers have been ripping it off wholesale since it was published. My joy in the books comes from the feeling of being transported to another place with its own history and its own peoples, and yeah, from the epic storyline.
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Like anything, YMMV. I'm not saying it can't be deep for some people (because, well, duh), just that it maybe not have been necessarily Tolkien's first and foremost point in writing the books.