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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-09-15 05:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #1351 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1351 ⌋

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[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Lucky you then, because your parents frankly sound like dicks and a lot of other kids would have been deeply hurt by that.

Offering age-appropriate criticism is not the same thing as telling a kid they're a failure for not producing work of age-IN-appropriate skill. Refusing to demonstrate any appreciation for your child's efforts definitely falls into the latter category.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Not hanging my art != telling me I was a failure. Why did you make that equation?

Why did you also assume they didn't demonstrate *any* appreciation?

Way to jump to conclusions about some pretty nice people, there.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
Not hanging my art != telling me I was a failure. Why did you make that equation?

Hey, YOU'RE the one who suggested they didn't hang it because they didn't consider it good enough to display or admire. I'd consider that a pretty clear statement of failure to a little kid.

Way to jump to conclusions about some pretty nice people, there.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, if you read my brief post, you'll see I suggest nothing of the sort. I never said they said I was a failure--because they didn't. I didn't say they didn't appreciate me. Because they did. I said they didn't hang my art. They didn't. I said my art was shit. It was. Those are all the *facts* that I stated. The rest is you making up stuff for reasons I don't get.

Maybe you were one of those kids that needed trophies for participation. I didn't grow up in the US. We got prizes for achievement, and encouragement towards that goal. Different mindset, not nasty or abusive in the least.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
If there is no cultural expectation that parents hang art where you are, then isn't your claim to be unbothered by your parent's refusal to do so utterly fucking irrelevant? Why would you not have mentioned that in your FIRST reply? Context much?

Anyway, I'm inclined to doubt you, based on your first comment. If there is no such cultural expectation, then why did you mention it as a watermark of youthful artistic success?

Maybe you were one of those kids that needed trophies for participation.

LOL, nice try, but no. North American schools aren't actually as one-note as that. They have many other ways of fucking kids up, too.

But this isn't about "trophies for participation." I happen to agree that handing out gold stars to everyone for participation alone is a disaster in the long run, but that's neither here nor there. Telling a kid who is only five years old that their art isn't good enough by your standards - which is EXACTLY what you said you'd do in your first comment - is developmentally inappropriate. End of.

Before you have kids then, at least pick up a parenting book or twice. Christ.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2010-09-17 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
*eyerolls* Or two, rather. It's still early.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-18 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'm inclined to doubt you, based on your first comment

You're doubting someone else, because that wasn't me. Me being the person whose art wasn't hung. But A+ for effort.

So, no, my parents never said that my art wasn't good enough by their standards. They just never hung it on their fridge. That's all. The causality is all on you.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2010-09-18 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
...Does how the internet work fucking escape you or something?

If you're a different anon, say so. Of course I'm going to assume you're the first one, UNLESS YOU SAY SO like someone who isn't a total dumbshit and knows I otherwise have NO WAY OF KNOWING you're someone else.

That's on YOU.

Also, your comments are now completely and utterly pointless and irrelevant to what I said to SOMEONE ELSE. Thanks for wasting my time and yours, you mindless brat.