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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-09-24 04:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #1360 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1360 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] kestrellan.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Tbh, I don't think of them as just counterparts to his performance, although yes I guess much of it is for the purpose of his own character development. But still, I think in both cases, both women play their roles very well and both clearly had their own major issues. It wasn't all about Leo's character, it was about the combined relationship.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I definitely agree that those two female roles weren't just cutouts for DiCaprio's characters to project onto. The ladies had their own internal world, to be sure, and they were fleshed out fantastically by the portrayal of their actresses.

On the other hand, they are like planets that revolve around a central star. Together they made a system, but cut out the star and the female characters drift. It's more a credit to the actresses that they imply such complexity to their characters than the roles themselves.

[identity profile] quinnzel.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
This.
thene: PROTIP do not fuck with Minette (minette)

[personal profile] thene 2010-09-25 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I feel bad for Nolan's getting stuck on writing women only in terms of their relationships with men. :/ Can't he do a female protag sometime ffs

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I would love for Nolan to get over it and write a female protagonist. Even if he did the lazy "flip genders and call it a day". Giving a talented actress the chance to lead in his kind of movie would make my day.
thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (I SHOOT YOU IN THE FACE)

[personal profile] thene 2010-09-25 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even think that's lazy. Any movie character is only as solid as the actress/actor who's playing them anyway, so why not flip a coin and go with it? I love BAMF chicks and really don't relate to feminine women except Naomi Hunter, ngl.

But I've a feeling Nolan has fail in between himself and having believable female characters...idk, it just seems like he wants all his stories to centre around men and their manly roles as sons/husbands/fathers/protectors and hasn't yet noticed that the other half of the human race even exists outside of that context. So his women are only there to be all squishy and understanding towards his archetypal men, and that is fucking tragic :/

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. And the funny thing is, I think a lot of non-men can identify with aspects of his archetypal men (even though some parts of fandom make it seem like if you're female, you only like that there's pretty boys doing cool things/being slashable). Which is why if a coin flip lead to a woman in one of his male roles, I think she would rock it (assuming a base standard of talent from her, as necessary of any actor).
thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (strange love)

[personal profile] thene 2010-09-25 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
YES THIS, see the thread about fangirls wanting to be Batman. Non-men are so much more than Hollywood will ever admit us to be.

[identity profile] rampant-chaos8.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
This this this. I really like Nolan's movies, but his treatment of female characters bothers me more and more with each passing one and I do wonder if this was part of the reason I didn't go crazy enough over Inception to fandom it, even though its concept is right up my alley. I'd love to see a female protag from him.
thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (birds)

[personal profile] thene 2010-09-25 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah that may be why I'm writing fusion fic about Inception that has no Inception characters in it.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Do want. Can't wait to read it.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
lol true tho