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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-09-24 04:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #1360 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1360 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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OP

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
well,that *IS* my gist. Well minus the slut part. Just because you dress sexy ALL the time and play a femme fatale doesnt mean you're a slut, RL or game.

In video games? they totally are! and men ARE better (better lines, better roles, better banter, more main roles, etc).

I repeat - in video games. In a ratio of the larger portion of them, not all.

OP

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Likewise.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
you're forgetting that there's a lot of sameyness for male characters, too. how many times have we seen characters just like leon or scott pilgrim or whoever else, really?

honestly, OP, i feel like you're judging all these characters as WOMEN rather than people, and are holding them to this specific standard and image that you don't hold for men. it's fine that you don't wanna dress femininely, of course, but it's not fine to go "feminine = bad" and totally write off a female character because she wears heels or is attractive or whatever the hell, despite the fact that she is perfectly cool otherwise.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
There is totally sameness. But I am making a point that the sameness for females is on a worse level than sameness for males.

In general if you like the portrayal of women in that, you are good, if it makes you cringe hard, its aweful.

There are some female characters I love plenty: Heather, violette, elika, jeniffer (from rule of rose)... but they are few and far in between.
Now name me characters which are: a sharp dressed genetically engineered assassin.
a professor in a far away village solving puzzles.
a young smartass kid aspiring to be the greatest pirate in the caribbean.
a loudmouth jerk who likes wrestling and anime.
an assasin with 7 alternative personalities

All of these are male.
A lot of the male characters are more action oriented. cuss more, less apologetic, less politically correct, funnier. less bothered to look sexy. they are somehow free-er. and thats liberating in a game sometimes.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
stating that they're male doesn't necessarily mean anything, because i couldn't name other MEN who fit those exact roles either, since you're describing very specific characters (and are also describing what they DO, in their SETTING, not really their personalities). however, if you were to generalize them even more, you would find a million characters who fit those same tropes. how many times have we seen loudmouth jerks? how many times have we seen the smart, collected type? how many times have we seen smartass kids?

you don't go into the same detail with female characters, and instead, you just IMMEDIATELY skip to their general trope and dismiss them as nothing but that. of course female characters are going to be boring to you if you see a pretty face and go "she's only here for eye candy," or see a girl who is outwardly upset about an important issue she's facing and go "she's just whiny."

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
I am just trying to point out that there are less or no females cast into wider variety of roles and games. Some of those roles are being filled by only males, whereas in RE and l4d series you have both male and female characters filling the same role (survivors) and you can choose which one you like based on character. You forget this is not really a book - in games what they do and how they look like and what they say and how they interact = their personality.

well are there really female assasins of the cold collected type? on par with hitman? or maybe even hard rain.
How about the really eccentric game types of killer 7?
the most I can come up with is equating mirrors edge with assassins creed. regardless of if you like or hate one- in assassins creed there was more interaction between characters.

yes, she can be utterly upset about an issue, but does it mean she has to suck? be worse than the male character and need his help all the time? demand his attention because hes ignoring her like a kid?
this situation is more likely than you think.

Its not the eye candy thing, its mostly the lines + role + apperence.

I can leave or take a male character and call him just eye candy. but why do I have to celebrate every single female character becuase they are decent and not take it or leave it like the male ones.

a lot of the female characters lack agressivness and shamelesness. and if they have that a lot of it usually gets translated into sexual flaunting. And whats worse that a lot of times if there is a female character she is going to become a love interest. Less likely to happen if she were male.



Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2010-09-25 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
re: assassins - Pretty much all the ladies in No More Heroes and Kill Bill (if movies count), and also quite a few in Ace Attorney. I'm pretty sure MGS had some.