[ SECRET POST #133 ]

[shahni.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #133 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[valkyriur.livejournal.com]

2. Yes, they are out there. But the ratio of people who are "real" and those who are BSing because of who-knows-what-reason is about the same as getting struck by lightning.

Otakin are no different from Otherkin or Therians in the fact that a good portion of them are just finding a way to entertain themselves or want to believe so badly that they are special that they start making things up.

(edited for mispelling)

[climbatize.livejournal.com]

I can't speak for Otakin since I've never talked to any (to my knowledge XD), but I've only ever known two soulbonders who were making it up: one was having a reaction to changing meds, and the other was just trolling fanficrants for fun. And I know a lot of soulbonders.

I don't really see why anyone would want to pretend to be otakin/a soulbonder because, y'know, look at the comments you guys are posting. It's obviously seen as pretty uncool.

[valkyriur.livejournal.com]

I don't really see why anyone would want to pretend to be otakin/a soulbonder because, y'know, look at the comments you guys are posting. It's obviously seen as pretty uncool.

It's actually for that particular reason. It's so they can feel persecuted and alone. It helps them feel justified in their reactions to people not liking them. Never mind the fact that some of them are just jerks and hide behidn a label to justify it.

[climbatize.livejournal.com]

So if most soulbonders just want attention, why does soulbonding have moderated membership and why are most of its entries flocked? :\

And if someone wants to feel persecuted and alone, it'd be a lot easier to say they're emo or goth or some kind of angsty subculture like that. I don't know why anyone would take the extra leap and make most of the world think they're crazy just so they can be percieved as misunderstood and alone.

[valkyriur.livejournal.com]

So if most soulbonders just want attention, why does soulbonding have moderated membership and why are most of its entries flocked? :\

Get out of LJ-land and go look about the internet and you'll see what I mean.

And if someone wants to feel persecuted and alone, it'd be a lot easier to say they're emo or goth or some kind of angsty subculture like that. I don't know why anyone would take the extra leap and make most of the world think they're crazy just so they can be percieved as misunderstood and alone.

Hey, I don't understand it either, but it's true.

[climbatize.livejournal.com]

...Do you have a link or something? I actually went and googled "soulbonding," and I'm just getting the usual articles and then people's LJs. XD;

I really want to see some of these pretend soulbonders now. And, y'know, not just the ff.n soulpuppeters. >>

[climbatize.livejournal.com]

Wait, unless you mean all those people on fanfiction.net and similar who have their "soulbonds" talk in script format and make out with each other all the time and everything.

Then I totally agree. >> But the ratio's still higher than getting struck by lightning. [/comment spam sorry]

[valkyriur.livejournal.com]

Wait, unless you mean all those people on fanfiction.net and similar who have their "soulbonds" talk in script format and make out with each other all the time and everything.

They count. :/

But the ratio's still higher than getting struck by lightning.

How many "soulbonds" or Otherkin/therian/Otakin have you met in RL? Sorry if this sounds like an assumption, but you'll find that Otherkin and Soulbonds mostly live on the internet and not in RL. As for me, it's been my belief that I was a wolf long before I had access to the internet to see others had beliefs like I did. It's like a fad to most people. And most of them grow out of it. Have you ever noted the influx of FF soulbonds or vampire/werewolf Otherkin whenever something new and popular comes out with them? The ratio may be a bit less than being struck by lightning, but in my experience, not by much.

[climbatize.livejournal.com]

I'm out as a soulbonder in real life. One of my best friends is multiple, too (and I've got another soulboding friend who I only know on the internet but am meeting IRL soon, if that counts? :D;).

And I still can't speak for Otherkin and Otakin (the vampire/werewolf thing does sound pretty fishy D:), but I tend to meet bonds of characters right after I play a game they're in or read their canon, so it makes sense that more FF-bonds would pop up after the new game or whatever's out...

[valkyriur.livejournal.com]

I'm out as a soulbonder in real life. One of my best friends is multiple, too (and I've got another soulboding friend who I only know on the internet but am meeting IRL soon, if that counts? :D;).

Here's the thing...It's really easy to say your Sephiroth (just as an example) on the internet and pretend to be him. It's not so easy to be Sephiroth in real life. Most of the soulbond/otherkin/otakin/whatever-they-call-themselves I've met in real life are just acting. You can tell. When a person has to change how they act normally to be what they "are" then it's not real.

And I still can't speak for Otherkin and Otakin (the vampire/werewolf thing does sound pretty fishy D:), but I tend to meet bonds of characters right after I play a game they're in or read their canon, so it makes sense that more FF-bonds would pop up after the new game or whatever's out...

Okay, wait...the vampire/werewolf thing sounds fishy, but people jumping out with FF doesn't? It's the same thing. Something gets popular and they decide to be it.

While I understand that until you have a name to put to it (whether it be generic vampire or a specific character) you're not going to come out most likely, it's kinda suspicious that tons of people will suddenly jump aboard the happy ship and then slink away or just disappear outright once the newest thing come around, don't you think?

[climbatize.livejournal.com]

Wait, what? Of course you'd see the person's actions changing when they switched because it'd be a different person at the front. When my bonds front, they're not me, they're them being themselves. You kind of lost me there. o_O (Also, if that's your criteria, how could you tell if someone actually was a soulbonder? They'd only act like one person or something?)

And no, it's not the same thing at all. I get that some soulbonders are making it up and want to be whatever's popular, but a lot of people just happen to be into the popular thing and get bonds from it, and that shouldn't make their experience any less valid. I said the vampire/werewolf thing was fishy because isn't Otherkin/Otakin about actually being the character or animal? It seems weird to suddenly discover that you've been some kind of mythological creature all your life when that creature's becoming popular, that's all.

[valkyriur.livejournal.com]

(Also, if that's your criteria, how could you tell if someone actually was a soulbonder? They'd only act like one person or something?)

You can tell. If they're pretending you can see them plan in they're head what they're going to do. And so here's my insanity right here: There's no aura shift when they're pretending. :P

It seems weird to suddenly discover that you've been some kind of mythological creature all your life when that creature's becoming popular, that's all.

It's about the same as suddenly realizing you have Sephiroth in your head, as far as I can tell.

If you couldn't find anything by Google, I'm sorry I can't help you. It was a while ago when I decided to look stuff like that up.

[climbatize.livejournal.com]

Well, doesn't everyone plan in their head what they're going to do, to some extent? I think you should give these people the benefit of the doubt, because it'd be crazy to go to all the trouble of pretending to be a bunch of different people in real life. We've had people not believe us, and think it was just me pretending because I hated them, etc etc, and that was pretty tough to deal with.

Realizing you've got Sephiroth in your head is totally different from realizing you're a vampire. Soulbonds aren't permanent... they're just like RL-friends who come and go, but if you're a vampire, you're always a vampire. It's like, my pet bird can't turn into a dog just because he feels like it, but he can make new friends and enemies whenever he wants. Except that was the worst analogy ever, sorry.

I found some stuff on hojo.org, which... that's not soulbonding. At all. D: Hopefully nothing like that is still going on.

[valkyriur.livejournal.com]

I think you should give these people the benefit of the doubt, because it'd be crazy to go to all the trouble of pretending to be a bunch of different people in real life.

It'd be crazy, yes, but I've seen crazier. Like I said, a lot of people want to be victims and not take responsibility for themselves, so they do stuff like the above.

I'm not saying that they aren't out there. But the "real" ones are rare from my experience. And as for benefit of the doubt, I do when I first meet them. Most end up proving themselves otherwise.

[climbatize.livejournal.com]

Okay, if those people really are pretending, for those reasons? They shouldn't even call themselves soulbonders. Being a soulbonder means taking more responsibility for your actions, and everyone in your system's actions, 'cause you've got to prove to the world you're okay. It's not an easy way out or something. [/rant]

So that sucks, and I'm sorry you had to meet people like that. D:

[valkyriur.livejournal.com]

I like your little rant. ;)

Eh, not your fault, so don't be sorry for it. I have met some great people who are (insert you term here), but having to sift through all the other people is hard sometimes.

It was good talking to you.