[ SECRET POST #1387 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1387 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The perseverance applies to gay people as well. It would be an utter lie to say either group, gay people or disabled people, do not have it harder than straight or able people.

What I'm trying to say is, are you proud to be disabled? I seriously doubt that's the case, with anyone. But that's what the phrase "disability pride" sounds like, when not explained, and when explained, ends up meaning completely different things to different people.

It's the "____ pride" phrase I hate more than anything else. I'm not proud of being gay. I'm gay and I'm okay with this. I'm not proud of being a racial minority. I'm not white and I'm okay with that too. Being proud of it would be taking it a step too far in my opinion... but that's what "____ pride" sounds like it is.

[fierceawakening.livejournal.com]

I don't quite know how to answer you. If the question is something like "If you could choose, would you prefer to have a disability or not?" I don't even know how to answer that at all -- not having a disability would make me a completely different person who would have a totally different path in life, so I'd literally be someone else. And I really have no way of knowing whether being me is superior to being some hypothetical other person.

If it's something like "are you proud to be yourself, including traits about yourself that some people find objectionable or upsetting like disability and bisexuality?" then the answer is "yes," and that's why the phrase doesn't bother me. People try to tell me (or to imply) that being queer or having a disability is bad and I hold my head up and say I'm proud to be me and proud to be a member of communities that include others like me, who also refuse to be ashamed.

That's really all I can say about it.

[(Anonymous)]

What I'm arguing, though, is that "pride" and "not being ashamed" are completely separate ideas.

"a high or inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, merit, or superiority, whether as cherished in the mind or as displayed in bearing, conduct, etc.
2.
the state or feeling of being proud.
3.
a becoming or dignified sense of what is due to oneself or one's position or character; self-respect; self-esteem.
4.
pleasure or satisfaction taken in something done by or belonging to oneself or believed to reflect credit upon oneself: civic pride.
5.
something that causes a person or persons to be proud"

Et cetera.

Pride basically means that you are actively happy about that trait and may be patting yourself on the back for this trait. Meanwhile,

"con·fi·dence
 
 /ˈkɒnfɪdəns/ Show Spelled[kon-fi-duhns] Show IPA
–noun
1.
full trust; belief in the powers, trustworthiness, or reliability of a person or thing: We have every confidence in their ability to succeed.
2.
belief in oneself and one's powers or abilities; self-confidence; self-reliance; assurance: His lack of confidence defeated him.
3.
certitude; assurance: He described the situation with such confidence that the audience believed him completely. "

I think that fits a lot better.

[(Anonymous)]

God, I hate not being able to edit anon.

For example...

Say I listen to a horrible pop band and love them. Just because I don't let it get to me when other people tell me how shitty they are doesn't mean I'm proud to listen to them, it just means I'm okay with liking them and not letting people get to me.