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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-12-09 04:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #1436 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1436 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 055 secrets from Secret Submission Post #205.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
No, some people are completely open about their sex lives. Some people have vanilla sex and nothing else. My point is NOT that everyone in the world has a kinky sex life, it is that you have NO WAY of knowing who does and does not unless you have a window into their bedroom.

And yes, some characters do have sex lives in canon. Take Queer as Folk, for example. In canon (if I recall correctly; it's been a while since I've rewatched he series) Brian bottomed to Justin (who are a canon couple) a grand total of one time, that we know of, and outright refused to let it happen any other time. So theoretically, a writer who writes Brian as the bottom the majority of the time is not exactly writing him IC. Does that mean it's disrespectful to write a fic where they decide to change their dynamic and let Justin become the dominant half of their relationship? It's far-fetched, certainly, but is the writer wrong for wanting to explore it?

Is it disrespectful to take a character who has stated his or her heterosexuality in canon, and put them in a slash pairing? That's certainly not in character, by your definition.

Fictional characters are not sacred entities. They were created and shared for entertainment. If you condone one kind of fanwork, you can't dismiss another by calling it disrespectful. Using a fictional character for your own masturbation fodder? How is that different than reading or writing a steampunk AU of a modern medical drama? That's for your own personal, selfish enjoyment, and deviates significantly from canon. Why is it suddenly different when the enjoyment involves sexual gratification?

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
And my point was that from the purely statistical point of view it's much more likely that our character does not (or would not) have whatever bizarre kink we want them to have, simply because the statistical percentage is against it. Kinks aren't called kinks because they are widely popular.

Well, topping and bottoming, unless we are talking hard BDSM, is not a 'kink', it's just a position. Same goes for sexual orientation. But if you take a character who openly stated they are not in any way gay or bi or straight, or a character who did say they'd never ever top or bottom - yes, it's disrespectful, because it means you don't care for the character in any way, they are nothing but your personal sex toy.

There is a character in one of my fandoms, for example, who sold his body. Once. To another man. He did it for the sake of saving lives, more than one life actually. It is explicitly shown that he hated every moment of it, he forced himself to endure it, it wounded his pride, he was so disgusted he ended up killing the man he slept with (later).
It is in no way in-character or acceptable or respectable to write porny fics about him whoring himself out cheerfully in deeply fetishized ways.

It is different because it is pure objectification. There is no art in it.

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
it means you don't care for the character in any way

In ANY WAY? Jesus Christ, you sound like a fucking bitch.

I'm actually too angry to properly reply to any of this. Your snotty superiority is showing through more and more with every reply. You have fun coming up with another haughty reply and basking in your knowledge that you are the one true fan. I'm done.

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't sound like a bitch, I am a bitch. Not sounding like one would be out of character. XD

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
why are you even reading these things if you feel so strongly about it?

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't have to read them, just watch the descriptions of the fics popping up in the community.