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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-12-30 04:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #1457 ]


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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 051 secrets from Secret Submission Post #208.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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[identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
They aren't breaking the law. That's why Joanne says they have a case; they're squatters.

They made a deal with Benny to live rent free in the building after he bought it. After a year, Benny unilaterally revoked that deal. Because he presumably made no effort to collect rent from them during that year, he gave up certain rights to collect rent from them after the fact. You can't never send someone any bills, and then suddenly ask them for an entire year's rent all at once. (Unless of course that's the payment plan you've set up.) Benny can kick them out, but he can't force them to pay him.

They say this at the beginning of the show; it's very clear. Bad on them to trust their friend and accept a verbal agreement in good faith, but they did have a deal with Benny. They weren't just being layabouts or ducking out on paying him.

(Anonymous) 2010-12-30 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Aren't squatters technically trespassing? I've always wondered about that.

[identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I think—and hopefully some lawyer will come in to correct this—that you have to enforce your property rights by coming by and kicking them out. If you have people living in your abandoned building and you don't bother kicking them out over a period of time, then they have squatter's rights and that's a whole common law thing about what rights they have and what rights they don't, one of which is that you can't kick them out with no warning; that in not kicking them out before, or demanding rent, you've entered into a common law agreement that they can live there. I think it's sort of like if you don't enforce your copyright you can lose it.

[identity profile] fairhearing.livejournal.com 2010-12-31 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
If they've been there over a month, they have squatter's rights, yes. You need to give them eviction notices, 30 days' warning, etc etc and so forth

NYC has the best rent laws in the world because --> even the rich exclusively rent there.

[identity profile] mollywobbles867.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU. Sheesh.
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[identity profile] cherrycoloured.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
That is true. I haven't seen the show or movie since the tenth grade, so a lot of the details are fuzzy to me.