I was talking about cases where a women gets accidentally pregnant, and just assumes that the man she had sex with welcomes fatherhood.
You don't think men have any culpability in these cases? Why does he get a pass and not her? There's birth control for men as well as women, so you can't say "well, she should have used protection and since she didn't it's all on her" because he should have used it, too. And that's not even taking into account that birth control fails sometimes. Also? It doesn't matter if he welcomes it or not. If they have consensual, unprotected sex, they BOTH have to deal with the possible consequences.
I'm not sure why you keep bringing up women working part-time. Someone has to watch the kids, and not everyone can afford child-care or a baby-sitter for more than a few hours. Sometimes it's not possible to find full-time work. If a man has nothing to do with his children, then most of the child-care rests with the woman, which leaves less time for work, especially if she's on her own with no support system.
If pregnancy results from rape, then clearly the man should be punished...but do you truly wish to be dependent of alimony from your rapist? Having to - even in minimal form- deal with him every month?
If that child-support (alimony is something else) helped keep my kid from going cold and hungry? Absolutely.
Lack of sex education is a problem, but not just for girls, but also for boys. It's an issue that should be tackled at school, before pregnancy, and not patched-up after sex education has failed by punishing either of the potential parents financially.
But you implied before that the man should have no responsibilities in "accidental" pregnancies (which these would be, if both parties are ignorant of sex ed) which would definitely punish the woman financially. So, again, why is it okay to punish her and not him?
As for men being jerks - yes that happens, but how exactly should one work anti-jerk sentiments into laws? And how do you distinguish fromthose who were very clear about their wishes?
I... are you honestly suggesting that a woman should be punished because a man's a jerk? If a man lies/tricks/forces/coerces/etc her into having kids, or just into having unprotected sex that results in kids, then yes, he has a responsibility for those kids whether he recognizes them as his or not. Denying the kid is his does not give him a free pass.
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You don't think men have any culpability in these cases? Why does he get a pass and not her? There's birth control for men as well as women, so you can't say "well, she should have used protection and since she didn't it's all on her" because he should have used it, too. And that's not even taking into account that birth control fails sometimes. Also? It doesn't matter if he welcomes it or not. If they have consensual, unprotected sex, they BOTH have to deal with the possible consequences.
I'm not sure why you keep bringing up women working part-time. Someone has to watch the kids, and not everyone can afford child-care or a baby-sitter for more than a few hours. Sometimes it's not possible to find full-time work. If a man has nothing to do with his children, then most of the child-care rests with the woman, which leaves less time for work, especially if she's on her own with no support system.
If pregnancy results from rape, then clearly the man should be punished...but do you truly wish to be dependent of alimony from your rapist? Having to - even in minimal form- deal with him every month?
If that child-support (alimony is something else) helped keep my kid from going cold and hungry? Absolutely.
Lack of sex education is a problem, but not just for girls, but also for boys. It's an issue that should be tackled at school, before pregnancy, and not patched-up after sex education has failed by punishing either of the potential parents financially.
But you implied before that the man should have no responsibilities in "accidental" pregnancies (which these would be, if both parties are ignorant of sex ed) which would definitely punish the woman financially. So, again, why is it okay to punish her and not him?
As for men being jerks - yes that happens, but how exactly should one work anti-jerk sentiments into laws? And how do you distinguish fromthose who were very clear about their wishes?
I... are you honestly suggesting that a woman should be punished because a man's a jerk? If a man lies/tricks/forces/coerces/etc her into having kids, or just into having unprotected sex that results in kids, then yes, he has a responsibility for those kids whether he recognizes them as his or not. Denying the kid is his does not give him a free pass.