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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-01-05 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #1464 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1464 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 108 secrets from Secret Submission Post #209.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Translated:

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Translation: I didn't agree with all the opinions expressed in said link.

Re: Translated:

[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Then form an argument that involves more than "I am more concerned about potential false accusations than I am about justice for actual rape victims."

Re: Translated:

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Translation: sex doesn't always work that way in the real world. Sometimes people just have sex without much yadda-yadda around it. That does not make it un-consensual.

Re: Translated:

[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
All sex does not take place within the context of established, understanding relationships. There is no context, even within a relationship, in which it is impossible for a sex act to take place to which all parties did not feel that they consented; therefore, there is no context in which rape is not possible.

Re: Translated:

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
But there is context in which the initiating party, for all the info they have,based on prior experience, cannot possibly know sex is not desired...

Re: Translated:

[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
They could ASK.

ASKING is a pretty reliable way to avoid becoming a rapist.

Re: Translated:

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Do you ask "can we have sex now?" every time you have sex?

Re: Translated:

[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, enthusiastic consent. Look it up.

Re: Translated:

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, I get the point, but real-life situation =/= theory

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[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
lol jesus christ, do you just assume that the women who developed the concept are all themselves virgins or something? Not women with active sexual lives, or potentially survivors themselves? Does it not occur to you that they developed this concept with an eye on and within the context of their own experiences and relationship? That they know how to apply the concept in real-world contexts?

For fuck's sake, one more time. Do some fucking research.

Translated once again:

[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
"I am a rape apologist and I have no argument."

Re: Translated once again:

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Whatever, sweetheart, whatever.

*pats your ass patronizingly*

Re: Translated once again:

[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Image (http://tinypic.com?ref=5dmbeb)

Re: Translated once again:

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
So if I go fuck myself without prior consent from myself, is that rape?

No, I realize this has gotten to be absurd.

And you're not goinng o convince me, and vice versa...

Re: Translated once again:

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
i laughed

Re: Translated once again:

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
At this point, that is probably the best action to take :)

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[identity profile] xerxes92.livejournal.com 2011-01-07 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
no

no

NO FUCK NO, FUCK YOU.

SOMEONE AS STUPID AND SIMPLE-MINDED AS YOURSELF HAS NO FUCKING RIGHT TO USE THAT GIF.

IT IS MORE AWESOME THAN YOU, AND MORE SENSIBLE THAN YOU SHALL EVER BE.


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Re: Translated:

[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, if you don't know, DON'T DO IT. It's pretty damn simple.

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[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
But they do know...or the think they know, based on the available data.

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[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, enthustiastic consent. Look it up.

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(Anonymous) 2011-01-06 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
What happens if they later change their mind and decide they didn't want it?

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(Anonymous) 2011-01-06 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Because that's so fucking common!

Christ - I have plenty of sexual encounters I regret. I wince about them but I don't say it was rape.

The time I was raped? I KNEW IT WAS RAPE BECAUSE I WAS RAPED.

WOMEN KNOW WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN RAPED.

So fuck you and your condescending "women are so fickle, women will use rape accusations to not feel embarrassed" BULLSHIT. Because WHY would a woman do that? WHY?! Why would she decide that embarrassment over sleeping with someone was somehow worse than the slut-shaming, sexist, woman-hating crap that people like you come out with when a rape accusation is made?

Women have VERY LITTLE to gain from false accusations.

So STFU.

Re: Translated:

(Anonymous) 2011-01-06 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Caaaaalm down. I wasn't saying it was common, it was a "what if" question.

"What if someone changes their mind? In the event that it happens." =/= "What if someone changes their mind BECAUSE LOL THOSE FICKLE WHORES TOTALLY DO THAT ALL THE TIME LOL WOMEN"

Re: Translated:

(Anonymous) 2011-01-07 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
Well, how great for you that you can ask these questions in a "what if!" or in an abstract manner. Take a minute to think that your hypotheticals actually have a real life impact. Women who have been raped have to deal with your stupid question and the stupid rape myths it generates from many different people. And it's painful.

It's a stupid question and you should feel stupid for asking it.

If you want to learn something then go read Fugivitus.

If you want to ask stupid hypothetical questions about rape then go find an MRA forum or something. They'll lap it up.