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But blaming men for your own failures is also a cop-out.

That's not empowerment.

The fact that it's a risk for me and not for him is mostly biological, not cultural. A man can walk away from a pregnancy. A woman - unless choosing abortion - cannot. Tat isn't fair, it's shitty as hell, but it's a reality that you have to take into account when you have sex.

i'm sorry no one loved you as a child and now you're a bitter adult

Ad hominem much?

And entirely untrue.

Blaming the system for its failures to help women isn't a copout.

Here's a novel concept:

How about women help themselves instead of waiting for "the system" to do it for them...

How about sexist systems stop making it harder for women to help themselves and oppressing them?

I'm convinced you're actually a man.

No woman could be this stupid and self-loathing.

That's so funny. Really, cause most men here are accused of being women (and I suppose some are).

I have no intention of changing your mind, nor have I any means to do so...well, except flashing my boobs at you...but that would be, you know, sexually inappropriate.

It's a pity most men have not actually spoken out here, cause this thread is unfortunately soaked in estrogen from beginning to start.

Don't be stupid anon, plenty of women are sexist assholes

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As far as I know, where I live, you cannot force a man to do that unless he has officially and willingly recognized the child as being his, regardless of DNA.

to do what? Not walk away?

how do you not see that as sexist?

Ehm, how is her choosing to have a kid against his wishes his fault?

It takes two to tango

If a man doesn't want to worry about a kid maybe he should stop having sex?

If a woman does not wish to take of a kid alone, maybe she should stop having sex?
Or she could also choose
-reliable contraception
-if that fails, abortion
-if that fails, adoption
Instead of trying to get money out of a guy who made clear he has no interest in being a father.

It DOES take two to tango.

Or maybe, just maybe, you could stop being a sexist shit and excusing men for being misogynist douchebags.

lol

right, either control what women do with their bodies or cut off support for the child to get back at the woman

you're a misogynistic piece of shit

Ehm, no.

The point is that women DO control what they do with their bodies in this society.

We have gotten to that point and that's a GOOD thing.

You, and you alone decide whether you wish to be a mother.

He, and he alone should be able to decide if he wishes to be a father. If not in body, then in spirit.

No-one is denying you contraception.

No-one is denying you a termination.

No-one is stopping you from finding adoptive parents.

You are not *forced* to be a mother.It's a choice, and that choice does have certain consequences. Every choice does come with a price.

There is so much negative stigma and poor education about sex and abortion that no, actually, women don't have a hell of a lot of control over their bodies.

If a man wishes not to be a father? He should be careful about contraception, and he should decide whether or not he wants to risk the possibility to have sex.

Or get a fucking vasectomy.

Aren't double standards lovely?

THERE IS NO DOUBLE STANDARD BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT MEN ARE STILL IN A POSITION OF POWER AND PRIVILEGE OVER WOMEN AND THEY ARE STILL OPPRESSING US.

NO ONE REQUIRES A MAN TO BE A FATHER TO HIS CHILDREN, ALL THEY REQUIRE IS HE TAKE SOME FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS ACTIONS AND PROVIDE MONEY AND RESOURCES SO THEY AND THEIR MOTHER DON'T DIE OF STARVATION AND EXPOSURE. DO YOU HONESTLY BELIVE IT WOULD BE BETTER IF THAT HAPPENED INSTEAD.

AARRRGH Poor me, I'm being oppressed! Therefore I'm not responsible for my actions!

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(Anonymous) - 2011-01-06 07:26 (UTC) - Expand

So ensuring that men remain in a place of privilege is more important than the lives of children, good to know.

Do you really think the kids' wellbeing is less important than making sure that no one's mean to the poor mens ))):

kallanda-lee.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 07:21 (UTC) - Expand

(Anonymous) - 2011-01-06 07:28 (UTC) - Expand

yeah fuck those kids! that'll show em