[ SECRET POST #1464 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1464 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 108 secrets from Secret Submission Post #209.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If a woman deliberately "oopses" a man into parenthood then, no, I don't think he should be responsible. But... it's almost as if you think every situation is that type of thing, and it's not. And according to you, it DOESN'T work both ways. A woman should be punished no matter what, and a man should get off scott free.

As far as adoption or abortion goes, considering the horror stories you hear about the adoption system in the US (which is where I'm from, it may be different in other countries) I don't blame anyone for not wanting to go that route (and often you need both parents' consent to put a child up for adoption, so if he wants the child and she doesn't that's another choice taken away from her), and abortion isn't an option for all women, for a variety of reasons - sometimes it's not available; sometimes it's against their morals and/or religion; sometimes they're just too scared; sometimes the stigma against it is too much for them to consider it; sometimes their families won't let them; and I'm sure there's more. I don't think a woman should be punished, even financially, for keeping her child any more than I think she should be punished for giving it up or having an abortion. Honestly, if there's consensual, unprotected sex, or birth control fails, and they both have been educated about how children are conceived, the woman should not have to suffer for not giving up her child just because the man doesn't want any responsibility, since he knew full well that was a possibility.

And, no, I'm sorry. I don't think women have that much more power to force a man into parenthood. Yes, they conceive, carry, and have the child, but this isn't always their choice, and I think more of them are forced into it than you realize. There's more to it than just the physical act. Men still have mental and emotional power over a lot of women; some are still raised being taught that having children is their duty; some will be ostracized by not "acting the way a woman should"; etc. The only way it will be as cut and dry as you make it is if outside influences like these are removed and that's not going to happen for a long time, if ever.

Let me toss a scenario out for you. Say a woman gets pregnant and the father wants the child but the mother doesn't. She's okay with carrying and giving birth* and agrees to give him custody afterward. Do you think she should be, in any way, responsible for the kid after it's born and given over? If your answer is "yes" you need to seriously sit back and think about what you've been saying.

*Because, believe it or not, not all women are okay with it. Getting pregnant is huge phobia for me, I have nightmares about it, and I can't imagine carrying a child full term, let alone giving birth to one.

But I'm done, because you can't seem to look past your 'those poor men!' way of thinking and we're never going to see eye-to-eye here.