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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-01-22 04:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #1481 ]


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[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know whether I pity you, or want to punch your lights out for being such a complete tool.

[identity profile] aaskew.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
That anon sounds like a more bitter version of myself, tbh; I could have written a lot of that. I eventually worked out that I was FTM and a lot of that resentment came from forcing myself (and having society force me) to be a woman and having it just not work; that then led to huge amounts of internalised transphobia because I thought that being trans was unfeminist because why did I hate being a woman? why did I see female as being wrong? it must be because I'm a misogynistic prick. *cue selfhate*

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It's comments like the anon's that sometimes make me wonder if maybe I'm really not trans after all, and just a regular self-hating woman.

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
The thought that the anon may be trans and hasn't figured it out or come to terms with it yet is what makes me pity hir, because yes, self-hate like that fucking sucks. It's the hate ze has for other women that makes me think ze is a complete tool. Don't know if you're acquainted with [livejournal.com profile] akai_senshi, but he's living proof that you can be a FtM without being a misogynist prick.

[identity profile] aaskew.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
In my case I spent most of my childhood and teenagehood furious at how boys were allowed to be themselves but girls had to act artificially like girls, and I hated those girls for submissively conforming to that arbitrary ruling instead of challenging it and fighting the patriarchy and being themselves like boys were allowed to. Eventually I learnt that they were being themselves, and... it was a huge and scary revelation that completely shook my identity.

I think I've encountered [livejournal.com profile] akai_senshi before. I know lots of feminist FtMs are out there; but my exposure to transphobic radfem groups - who believe trans men to be traitors to feminism pandering to the patriarchy - resulted in a lot of ingrained ideas that I'm still finding hard to shake. Because I still feel like a massive hypocrite when I go, 'yeah, women are equal to men and should be treated as such. ...brb transitioning to male.'

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't feel like a hypocrite. Any feminist worth hir salt knows that believing men and women are equal means that having female anatomy does not invalidate someone's identity as a man, and that man is betraying no cause by changing his body to reflect his gender. A person's sex, regardless of whether they were born with it or transitioned, should have no impact on their ability to be a feminist.

I am really, really sorry you had/have to go through that bullcrap. Anti-trans women give feminists a bad name.

[identity profile] omorka.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Just for the record: there were probably a fair proportion of sensitive, gentle, and/or femmy boys around you who weren't being allowed to be themselves, either. Gender-role pressure isn't particularly pleasant for either gender.