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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-01-26 04:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #1485 ]


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[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-01-26 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you not do this in high school? That's too bad.

[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-01-26 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
It was an honest question. I recall reading both (although now that I think about it I suppose there was a modern English translation along side the original text). I thought it was part of the standard high school curriculum, and found it fascinating. They really should do that in schools.

[identity profile] tardiscrash.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Man what high school did you go too? I mean I would have loved to have been exposed to that in school but I've had to hunt it out on my own.

[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I must have gone to a pretty awesome high school, judging by what others have said about their experiences with the classics:(

One of my favorite English-class-memories was listening to a recorded version of Beowulf in the Old English. You should seek out a reading if you have the time... it's sooooo pretty, even though you don't understand the words, you can almost feel the meaning.

[identity profile] agawa-jean.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I hadn't refreshed the page when I replied, so I didn't see your comment.

Old English is super beautiful.

[identity profile] malik-chan.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's not where I went to school unless you took British Literature, since the seniors in my high school had a choice of English classes.

Also, unless you specifically study it, hardly anybody knows Old English since it's almost nothing like English today.

[identity profile] gershwhen.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
We had both of those in High School (Michigan). Although we didn't do ALL of the Cantbury Tales because they were a bit racy for our conservative area. But it was Old English and the translations side by side.

[identity profile] malik-chan.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't count. First off I said to anon to come back when they could read Beowulf in Old English, not a translation of it into modern day English, and second of all, The Canterbury Tales are in Middle English, not Old English.

I also also read those in high school, but that's because I specifically took British Literature.

[identity profile] siriuslynow.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
congrats on winning "most pretentious comment of the thread" award.

[identity profile] checkerblob.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
HWÆT, WE GAR-DEna in geardagum,
þeodcyninga þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon!
oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
monegum mægþum meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas, syððanærest wearð
feasceaft funden; he þæs frofre gebad,
weox under wolcnum weorðmyndum þah,
oð þæt him æghwylc ymbsittendra
ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan; þæt wæs god cyning!
Ðæm eafera wæs æfter cenned
geong in geardum, þone God sende
folce to frofre; fyrenðearfe ongeat,
þe hie ær drugon aldorlease
lange hwile; him þæs Liffrea,
wuldres Wealdend woroldare forgeaf,
Beowulf wæs breme --- blæd wide sprang---
Scyldes eafera Scedelandum in.
Swa sceal geong guma gode gewyrcean,
fromum feohgiftumon fæder bearme,

Isn't that what Beowulf is in old English? I honestly don't see any resemblance to English there, what does it say?
(Not trying to be sarcastic, honest question, this stuff was alongside the modern English translation I had to read for English and I tried deciphering it but I've never even seen some of those characters before.)

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
it's fucking gibberish is what it is, it's like a unicode table threw up

[identity profile] littlewings04.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
That's Old English, otherwise known as Anglo-Saxon. Old English bears little resemblance to Modern English. Middle English -- i.e., Chauser's original language -- comes closer and is somewhat comprehensible to the modern speaker, but Old English is a West Germanic language and was heavily influenced by Norse languages, if I recall correctly. (I'm no philologist, nor a student of Old English, it's just a passing interest.) However, once you learn the structures of it and accustom to it, it starts to really make sense. Most collegiate-level students can learn to read basic Old English in a term, and many can grasp most of Beowulf in that span of time as well.

[identity profile] agawa-jean.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Beowulf in Old English looks like this:

"HWÆT, WE GAR-DEna in geardagum,
þeodcyninga þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon!"

I would be very surprised (and jealous) if you actually read it in high school.

[identity profile] cephiedvariable.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, when I took ENG11-AP at our school, we totally had a version of Beowulf that had both the original text and the translation in it and we spent a whole class listening to/attempting to read the Old English. o_O

Maybe that was just a Mr. Woodley thing?