[ SECRET POST #1485 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1485 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

War and Peace is written in Russian. The Quijote is written in Spanish. La Divina Commedia is written in Italian. And don't forget Zola, Molière, Petrarca, Dostoievski, Plato, Goethe, Aristoteles... Any of them wrote in English. And all of them are classics in the Western canon.

So in the Western canon there are a lot of books which aren't written in English. They are well recognized, as everyone who likes to read them knows. If you don't know it it's because you don't care about classics at all. They don't need you to speak for them.

And seeing your point 3, I think you don't even know what "a literature classic" means.

[chixb4dix.livejournal.com]

Doesn't change the fact that classics portray extremely narrow experiences.

You are absolutely right about classics not needing me to speak for them though. As a matter of fact, they don't need ANYONE to speak for them. Many other great writers do, often because of discrimination.

So, how about you read classics and feel soooo special about it and the rest of us read whatever actually touches us?

[(Anonymous)]

XD I read whatever I want, classics and crappy books. But your problem with classics isn't a political or a social one; it's YOUR problem. You're the one who wants to be soooo special turning your inability to enjoy classics into something *deeper*

[chixb4dix.livejournal.com]

Amazing argument. Have a cookie.

[(Anonymous)]

I notice that you're saying a lot about the politics of Western Canon and absolutely nothing about the quality of the literature itself. They are not the same argument AT ALL, and conflating them is dishonest.

[chixb4dix.livejournal.com]

Politics affect what ends up being a classic. If you honestly think it doesn't happen, you are very naive.

And for people like me who are ignored and down right disrespected in many of the classics - guess what? It does kinda affect their quality in my eyes.

[(Anonymous)]

No. "Politics affect [sic] what ends up being a classic" is a cop-out. You are either critiquing a text itself or you are critiquing the cultural institutions surrounding it. They are not the same thing and it's simply disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

What 'classics' have you even read? Do you even know what's considered 'classics'?

[chixb4dix.livejournal.com]

Whether I think classics are actually good quality literature or not or have even read any of them does not matter.
The point is: why should person X read classic book Y when she could be reading non-classic book Z that she enjoys more?

Only reason would be that classic book Y must be superior to Z simply because many people say so.

I don't believe so as I have never in my life seen scientific proof that quality of literature can be measured objectively.

[(Anonymous)]

"Why should person X read classic book Y when she could be reading non-classic book Z that she enjoys more?"

How would you even know, if you haven't read them both to compare?

[(Anonymous)]

ZING!

[jaquenerd.livejournal.com]

Huckleberry Finn, Scarlet Letter, Gone With The Wind, Roots, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Last of the Mohicans, tales of Genji, The Ramayana, Oliver Twist, The Jungle, Things Fall Apart, I know why the caged bird sings, Crime and Punishment, Treasure Island, Arabian Nights, Alice in Wonderland, Call of the Wild, The Jungle Book, Invisible Man, Mutiny on the Bounty, Grapes of Wrath, One Hundred Years of Solitude, House of Spirits, Animal Farm, Night, Lakota Woman, diary of a Young Girl, andthose are just the ones off the top of my head.these are all considered classics and NONE of these are about rich, white, men.

That being said, I am not a hunchback in pre-revolutionary paris, I am not a Jewish boy forced in a German concentration camp, I am not an adultress in Puritan New England, I am not a survivor of Wounded Knee, and yet I have read and not only enjoyed these books but was able to relate to the characters and their struggles as well as be invested in their stories.

That is a classic. Yes it is a reflection of the time but if these stories were so inaccessible to be able to relate to them on a personal level, they would not be still read about and talked about today.

Plus, there's the whole changing the world thing. That was kind of important I suppose.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course, because in your head, people only reads classics to feel special.