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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-01-26 04:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #1485 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1485 ⌋

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[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
You'll have to provide specific examples because a lot of classics are still read, enjoyed, and discussed today by the common people.

And?

[identity profile] jaquenerd.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Was something I wrote unclear?

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
More like lacking a point, but whatever.

The Point:

[identity profile] jaquenerd.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm asking you to back up your argument that Western classics are only relavent in todays society because the rich, white, male elite read them in school and say they are important.

I disagree and wish you to elaborate.

Re: The Point:

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
What's to elaborate? You pretty much gave a nice, concise summary of what I said for me. Granted, there are some exceptions, but there's a lot of stuff out there that gets hailed as the pinnacle of modern civilization that's really quite shit. Exactly what's shit and what isn't is largely a personal opinion (for example, in my view, Shakespeare is extremely important given his influence on modern language, but Marlowe can go fuck himself) but pretending it's ALL completely important just because a bunch of stuffed shirts say so... yeah, no.

The Point:

[identity profile] jaquenerd.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, no one can answer your question as to why those books are considered classics and untouchable if you won't provide specific examples.

Re: The Point:

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhhhh... why should I have to provide examples when it's someone else's duty to explain what makes a classic important?

Re: The Point:

[identity profile] jaquenerd.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Because you are the one asking why "classics" are so gosh darned important.

There are many books that are considered "classic" literature. They are important and still relavent today for different reasons. It really depends on the book as to why it is important. Thus, if you are asking why classics are relevent to society, no one can give you an answer without referring to specific examples.


So if you want to bring up a book that you feel is wrongly hailed as a pinnacle of human achievement when it is complete and utter SHIT, you just look like you're complaining about an issue that doesn't exist.

Re: The Point:

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2011-01-27 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough, so I'll give you some examples, like I gave [livejournal.com profile] cold_river_blue.

The list, verbatim:

The Sound and the Fury
Hunger
Pride and Prejudice

ANYTHING JAMES JOYCE EVER WROTE