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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-02-06 04:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #1496 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1496 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 12 pages, 293 secrets from Secret Submission Post #214.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2011-02-06 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, sure, but the sarcastic "let's just let everyone play whatever trash they like" is so ridiculous. I agree that video games are an art form but the fact remains that having fun is kind of the point, and while making sure that people know things other than nintendo games exist is one thing, you can't make people like what you like or see vidya as some deep serious thing if they're simply not inclined to use video games for that purpose.

(Anonymous) 2011-02-07 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I can't make them but I can try and explain why I think they could be a deep serious thing! To use the same example again, "fun" is not always the point of reading, or the point of seeing a movie. Is a textbook fun, is Schindler's List fun? On some level we enjoy them or find them useful, but nobody seems to use that as the definition of 'fun in games'; it's always about having FUN FUN FUN every second of playing in case the player loses interest. By saying "having fun is kind of the point" of games, that is shutting them out from being anything more serious than light entertainment. I think it's fine to force the player to do something un-fun to illustrate a point. I had pretty much no fun playing Dungeoneer; I was bored by the gameplay, repelled by the graphics and slightly concerned by everything else, but that had an effect on me and was a worthwhile experience.

also i just really hate fun, everyone be miserable forever

(Anonymous) 2011-02-07 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Weelll, like others have said, gameplay is kind of what separates video games from reading or seeing a movie, because movies and books and music and etc. kind of already do every other thing that video games do, so while I guess that doesn't mean that having fun is the point, it means that gameplay is the point, and most people who play video games for the gameplay are going to want it to be fun. Can't exactly fault them for that.

[identity profile] rythen.livejournal.com 2011-02-07 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but you're not going to WANT to read a book about Peach Farming if you're not interested in it, even if it's revolutionary.

I don't care how innovative a game is, if I don't enjoy it, I'm not going to play it.