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(This is the anon from before, by the way, the one who didn't call you a kid.)

But Snape did abuse Harry. It wasn't anything physical, possibly because he wasn't in charge of Harry's physical care, but he did emotionally abuse him. Imo, that's just as bad.

And Lily didn't date James until after she and Snape had fallen out. Up until then, she was standing by him and refusing to give James a chance. We never even saw Petunia's upbringing very closely. We don't even know if her parents loved her. And even if they did, I don't think Snape should get a free pass just because he had a worse childhood than her.

I'm not giving him a free pass. That's not my intention. I'm just trying to remind people that the damage done in childhood matters in adulthood. While Petunia did suffer because she wanted to go to Hogwarts and couldn't and felt alienated from her sister because of it, I don't think that's a real cause for her behavior towards Harry. Yes, she was a child for it and we don't see her whole upbringing but I think that JK would have put it in the books if she were abused/treated badly as a child; she did it will all her other characters for whom it was important and relevant information.

JK left out a lot of important things that she only clarifies in interviews, so I wouldn't be surprised. But even if Petunia wasn't abused, I still don't think Snape should get any more forgiveness than her. Harry was abused, but he didn't end up being mean to people for absolutely no reason.

I haven't watched any of her interviews. Does she mention Petunia's upbringing?

But Harry went to Hogwarts and found all those friends and people to support him through all his years and temper the bad times with the Durseleys with good memories. He had Dumbledore, McGonagall, Ron, Hermione, all the Weasleys- all of those people who loved. Snape didn't have that. He had Lily. And he lost that. I've just seen what things a broken home can lead someone to so I guess I'm more sympathetic (but NOT completely forgiving) towards him because of it. I've had friends for whom I was the only person who really cared so I guess I just see my friend in him.

Not that I can recall. Usually she only answers what people are most eager to know (who marries who, for the most part).

Snape only had Lily, but he could've had more friends if he hadn't gotten so into the Dark Arts. Maybe not with more Gryffindors, but I'm sure there were people from Ravenclaw or something who would've been willing to give him a chance. And as someone who was abused and didn't grow up to be like Snape, I guess that's why I don't like to see him so easily forgiven.

He definitely could have had more friends but the feeling that I got from the books was that he was already an outcast. Like he'd been judged by those around him (not just James) and found lacking. Falling in with a bad crowd that accepted him when he was already feeling alienated just makes sense to me, however much it sucks that it was Death Eaters than he fell in with. The Dark Arts people were the ones who were willing to give him a chance; that's the crappy thing. That when someone is feeling vulnerable, they're susceptible to all kinds of bad influences.

I'm sorry you were abused as a child. The fact that you overcame it makes you stronger than most. But as I just said, most people aren't as strong as you. I've known people who couldn't overcome their horrible circumstances. They internalized it and made bad choices because of it and they weren't strong enough to make the right choice.

I don't know, I got the feeling that he didn't have to be an outcast. We saw him being judged by Petunia because of his lack of money, but I don't think the kids at Hogwarts would care so much. The Weasleys got a hard time from certain people, but they still made friends. His interest in the Dark Arts, on the other hand, could've made him more of an outcast, but I guess that depends on which you think came first - him being outcasted or him falling in with the bad crowd.

Well, thank you for that. I think it's realistic that not everyone in the Harry Potter universe overcomes abuse, but I don't think it makes it alright.

But he was that kid in Slytherin. So that was an extra mark against him. The House atmosphere definitely propagates a bit of a separatist attitude, especially in terms of Slytherin. That surely made it harder to make friends outside his House.

It may have made it harder, but not impossible. And it's a bit of a chicken-egg situation too, if Snape became bitter and dark before or after the sorting ceremony.

I'd say he was most likely bitter and dark because of his upbringing. It most likely got worse after the Sorting. Being in Slytherin probably sowed the seeds.

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