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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-02-19 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #1509 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1509 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 376 secrets from Secret Submission Post #216.
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(Anonymous) 2011-02-20 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I personally weigh actions done out of love and guilt heavier than those done out of simple guilt. But that's just me.

Which makes your argument irrelevant, then, because there is no love for Harry in this equation. There is, however, arguably just as much "love" for Lily in Petunia as there is in Snape. Both treated her exceptionally poorly based on their decisions to give in to jealousy and insecurity, and beyond that, Snape's affection for Lily was neither romantic nor loving - it was sick and obsessed. He was more than happy to have Voldemort off James AND Harry in exchange for "getting" Lily afterwards. When that didn't work out, it was Dumbledore's suggestions that even pulled enough guilt from Snape to do as he promised in the first place.

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-02-20 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Bad-mouthing her/her choice of husband for the child's entire life doesn't really point to love and affection. Maybe she did love Lily but I didn't see it in my reading of the books.

[identity profile] cobryn-moy.livejournal.com 2011-02-20 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, she was her little sister. I'm usually a stickler for looking for textual evidence for things, but I don't think it's much of a stretch to take it for granted that she loved her sister. Didn't necessarily like her, but as a general rule - unless something terrible has gone down - love for even the most exasperating sibling is as hard to get rid of as iTunes from a PC.

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-02-20 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
LOL I love that analogy.

(Anonymous) 2011-02-20 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Okay... Wanting/agreeing to have her family murdered so Snape can have her to herself doesn't point to love and affection either! We are shown in canon that Petunia loved her sister in their childhood (enough that she was hurt by all of this) - same as your argument that Snape loved Lily in their childhood, "before" she died, etc.

Seriously, if you want to know why I sounded condescending before, THIS is why - you just don't seem to have a very mature or grounded perspective, here. PS, "kiddo" isn't the same as calling someone a child.

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-02-20 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
It's condescending as hell though. And completely unnecessary. This is a civil conversation. A tone like that has no place.

Bad-mouthing doesn't just show dislike. You take the time to badmouth someone when you feel a strong enough disdain or hatred for them that you just can't contain yourself. That's what Snape had for James. Petunia obviously had it for both Lily and James. It's obvious that Snape was deluded and that his love for Lily was warped enough for him to find the death of her family OK, but in terms of Lily herself, Snape did show affection.