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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-03-20 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #1538 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1538 ⌋

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[identity profile] lemon-m.livejournal.com 2011-03-21 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
It seems like it. I dunno who that is, but the secret's subtlety about it is punching me in the face. What's the scoop on her, though?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-21 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
She wrote a really tacky manifesto recently on the validity of Mary Sues, and conflated it all with her personal dislike of slash, and basically called everyone who writes fanfiction without OCs a sub-standard ficwriter.

(Anonymous) 2011-03-21 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
This. It was basically about how Mary Sues are a tool for learning writers, nevermind that this is what she writes all the time herself and won't hear a negative word said about it.

1st Anon

(Anonymous) 2011-03-21 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention how even though we all start out as bad writers, apparently we should never actually point out this bad writing and let them magically improve through the power of self-confidence.

SA

(Anonymous) 2011-03-21 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
She's a Suethor who has a habit of latching onto a popular slash ship in a fandom, writing a few stories for them and making friends with other writers of the same ship, then abandoning the ship when she starts to get popular and focusing on her female OCs. She also refuses to listen to criticism of any kind (but especially about her OCs), often intially misinterpretting or misrepresenting it to make herself out to be a martyr.

Lately, she has taken upon herself to preach about how since everyone starts out as bad writers, no one has any right to criticize other bad writers, especially over Mary Sues (which she doesn't actually believe exists). She's trying to make herself out to be a crusader for novice writers and the writers of female OCs, despite the fact that, while she demands support for her OCs and dismisses any criticism as coming from "haters" and "rabid slash fans," she rarely shows support for the female OCs of other writers, especially if they are paired with the same canon male she has paired her OCs with.

There's more, but this is the most relevant to the secret.

Re: SA

[identity profile] lemon-m.livejournal.com 2011-03-21 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, I just read the Mary-Sue Rebuttal. There is a line about constructive criticism. One. She has some points, but very incomplete and...yeah, she doesn't seem very sincere. Honestly I think that the better advice would be to tell people to say 'lol yeah I like writing Sues, deal with it'

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2011-03-21 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's her attitude really. She does have some points, but the execution is incredibly flawed and self-serving. She pretty much dismisses criticism as the ravings of impotent haters, when the fact it that most bad writers won't improve without being exposed to criticism in some form. She also makes sweeping generalizations (apparently I simply can't exist because I both have developed OCs of my own and will offer concrit to the creators of badly developed OCs and will call a Sue a Sue) and is letting her anti-slash bias show.

Better advice would be "Write what you want, but know the rules before you break them," which applies to all facets of original and fanwriting, not just the intergration of OCs.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2011-03-21 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Don't forget her flagrant misrepresentation of polyamories, which she will actually argue are correcte depictions.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2011-03-21 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, apparently polyamory is all about the majority of the group worshipping and waiting on a single member of the group, who then talks about them to others in a rather degrading, chauvanistic manner.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2011-03-21 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's one of the more disingenuous things I've ever seen written in fandom, and that's really saying something.