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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-02 03:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #1551 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1551 ⌋

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-04-02 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
19. http://oi55.tinypic.com/zthgxt.jpg

[identity profile] allstarzs.livejournal.com 2011-04-02 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
But Gaga pretty much stole everything she is from other artists... but in all honesty she has stolen more from Elton John than anyone else IMO.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-03 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Inspiration=/=stealing

we're pretty much at a point where nothing can be 100% original, get over it.

[identity profile] homette.livejournal.com 2011-04-03 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
/thread

[identity profile] badass-tiger.livejournal.com 2011-04-02 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to agree. Inspiration automatically equals plagiarism these days. It's hard to be original, but at least some artists can pull it off by keeping 'unoriginal' exciting and fresh.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-02 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Bad example. Lady Gaga IS pretty much this generation's Madonna.

Nobody is comparing Lady Gaga to Sleater-Kinney, Joan Jet, Joan Biaz, Janis Joplin, or Beyonce or Janelle Monae. They're comparing her to the person who's schtick she's aping. Madonna's.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-02 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
well duh. misogyny is everywhere, the pope is catholic, bears shit in the woods, water is wet etc

[identity profile] deavar.livejournal.com 2011-04-02 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't male artists and bands get accused of ripping each other off all the time, though?

Though I guess when men are accused of ripping off other men, people usually mean their sound and not their style.

[identity profile] dudette-in-town.livejournal.com 2011-04-02 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
ymmv on the example but ia. In most interviews with female pop stars they are compared to other female pop artists who bear no resemblance to them.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-02 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think there is a difference between being inspired by and incorporating aspects of and flat out copying and stealing.

As for the Gaga/Madonna likeness, they have both been pretty open about it. Gaga has said that Madonna is a huge inspiration, and Madonna has said she is a-okay with Gaga's songs and everything.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-02 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe you're right, inspiration is not plagiarism, but Gaga is indeed copying a lot of stuff, not only Madonna.
Nobody would care that much if her fans weren't that obsessive about her being "original" and "special".
She's not. Deal with it.

[identity profile] sinonmybody.livejournal.com 2011-04-03 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
this. ^.^

(Anonymous) 2011-04-03 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed

(Anonymous) 2011-04-03 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
also, holy shit when people started accusing Christina Aguilera of "stealing Gaga's look" when Christina has been doing it for YEARS. Goddamn Xtina got a time machine to steal from Gaga >:(((

[identity profile] that-evening.livejournal.com 2011-04-03 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
THIS!

Someone can be deeply inspired by various artists without just being a copycat. You rarely see male artists accused of it.

[identity profile] homette.livejournal.com 2011-04-03 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
it's lame no matter what. artists like the beatles have even said they take shit from other artists, like elvis (well, not really "take shit" but you know).

who gives a fuck

[identity profile] ms-scarletibis.livejournal.com 2011-04-03 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, she's totally ripping off Madonna (who ripped of Cyndi Lauper, but was more lucrative and therefore better than Lauper), and her style (which...it's not like she makes those outfits herself) is a rip off of Bjork and Grace Jones.

She's not original.

In fact, that "Born This Way" song sounds a lot like "Express Yourself."

But hey--she's getting paid. More power to her, I guess.

[identity profile] liyosa.livejournal.com 2011-04-03 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
And male artists aren't accused of this?

(Anonymous) 2011-04-03 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe you should read it again.