Could not disagree more. I mean, even if I could get past the power differential of "but John is his father", I don't agree with you on the character dynamics.

And regarding the Bonus secret...I don't think people who feel that way are hypocrites, because I think it's basically unrelated. People who don't see anything wrong with Dean sleeping with Sam are incorrect, regardless of their stance on John/Dean.

(ftr, this is not from an anti-Wincest point of view. I read it. Both pairings mentioned.)