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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-06 03:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #1555 ]


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[identity profile] alanahikarichan.livejournal.com 2011-04-07 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
I think sometimes criticism about the role of female characters in fiction does this unfortunate double reach-around back into misogyny the moment a female character touching a trope or displaying a fatal flaw makes them "shithives maggots".

+1 why can you articulate so well.

There's a lot of "if you can't do a female character perfectly you shouldn't do a female character at all" but everyone has different goalposts for "perfect" and those goalposts are constantly moving the moment a female character actually approaches them, or a female character is reduced down to the most negative trait a person can think of and everything else she does is dismissed as unimportant, no matter how important it is-- hell, I made a post about this last week (http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_rant/147868.html) where a male "feminist" reduced ass-kicking, strong-willed, bookish and brilliant Belle to having "one asset", that being sex appeal.

Judging female characters so harshly that none of them can be "good" does no one any good.

[identity profile] cephiedvariable.livejournal.com 2011-04-07 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I used to be really into harshing on female characters like that because I was oh so feminist

I mean

when I was like fifteen. >:?

It's definitely useful to criticize the inherent and often unconscious sexism that is an underlying influence in basically everything we watch or read, but I get really leery of people who jump over every flaw in a female character (or, in the case of characters like Vriska, every female character with gratingly harsh flaws in generally) as a chance to rake that character over the hot coals. I think anon here was aiming more at a criticism of Hussie, but I think it got a little away from them. :/

[identity profile] cephiedvariable.livejournal.com 2011-04-07 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
I think anon here was aiming more at a criticism of Hussie, but I think it got a little away from them. :/

By which I mean: I think Anon was trying to say "this is why I think Hussie is sexist", but to me it came off as "I automatically view all these female characters in the most negative light possible".
Edited 2011-04-07 03:38 (UTC)