[ SECRET POST #1562 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1562 ⌋

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Notes:

oh god stop using red text on jpegs

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Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

10. http://i.imgur.com/vE70T.png

[no-one-specific.livejournal.com]

Who are they? And why can't they be gay/lesbians?

[interrobangings.livejournal.com]

because kanaya (the girl) is canonly a "lesbian" (quotes because her race doesn't really have a term for it and everyone is bisexual. she's a bisexual with a fetish)
john (the boy)has said in canon he's not a homosexual

+1

[interrobangings.livejournal.com]

agreeing

[pts.livejournal.com]

I think canon orientations have never had anything to do with what people ship, so why are we even having this conversation?

...said the only John/Rose shipper in the entire universe.

[(Anonymous)]

John/Rose?

[(Anonymous)]

You are definitely not the only John/Rose shipper out there.

[ahmnomnom.livejournal.com]

isn't he like thirteen or something?

[seathing.livejournal.com]

They're both 13.

Also, I have great amounts of love for your icon.

[violent-aki.livejournal.com]

Slashers gonna slash. Since when have fic writers even remotely given a damn about what's canon and what's not?

[(Anonymous)]

HOW IS THAT EVEN A THING

[(Anonymous)]

karkat, we're not having this conversation again.

[daniela-lynx.livejournal.com]

Kanaya is a canon lesbian because Hussie said so.
John said in the text that he's not gay. He's 13. I also thought I wasn't gay at 13, it doesn't prove anything.

[(Anonymous)]

You have precisely summed up the difference here. I suppose someone can argue for 'death of the author' when it comes to Kanaya, but when the author is metaphorically in the same room reading along with you and commentating along with the story, 'word of God' seems a lot more valid.

[radio-nurse.livejournal.com]

This, basically.

[fireholly.livejournal.com]

Aaaaaand despite saying that he's not gay, John has a canon crush on a male actor.

[une-pomme-folle.livejournal.com]

You humans have a word for that?

[ottechoco.livejournal.com]

what i never understand is people who think shippers think their ship is OMGCANON. or shippers who are convinced THIS WILL BE CANON and get all ragey about anybody who disagrees.

I mean, most shippers are aware they're writing/drawing something outside of canon. Because it's fun or the pairing interests them in some way. It's not like they think OMG JOHN AND DAVE ARE TOTALLY GOING TO HOOK UP oh and kanaya is going to start boning gamzee dicks for everyone

fandom you are an odd thing, sometimes.

[appearifywords.livejournal.com]

Just all you want, OP, but I am of the firm opinion that John is at the very least biromantic, if not bisexual.

He's still young and hasn't had the chance to explore romance or sexuality yet, and I honestly don't see him as the type of guy to really put too much emphasis on the gender of a person.

Not to mention he has a pretty obvious mancrush on Nic Cage.

[yucari.livejournal.com]

My personal fanon is that John is asexual. and biromantic but that's neither here nor there

People who write Kanaya as being anything other than lesbian sorta piss me off, though. Yeah, good job erasing queer women's preferences when they're inconvenient to you; that's not a dick move at all or anything.

(... I think I would actually be okay with someone's interpretation of Kanaya being a little bi if it were brought up within the context of Kanaya's having a lesbian relationship. But it only ever seems to come up when people need to justify shipping Kanaya straight, so.)

[sugarsurge.livejournal.com]

Dude, the way I play it with Kanaya is that her ♥ and ♠ quadrants are girl exclusive, whereas her ♣ and ♦ quadrants are open to both females and males. The latter portion of that sentence is based on the Ashen quadrant she filled with Vriska/Tavros and Vriska/Eridan, and also bcause I ship Kanaya<>Karkat like it's my fucking job.

As for John, I really don't care. Biromantic and/or bisexual works for me.

daniela_lynx brings up a pretty good point in comparison of the two. The character saying he's not a homosexual in the text isn't the same as the author straight up confirming that Kanaya has a "girl fetish".

[cloud-riven.livejournal.com]

You mean, if someone firmly believes those things at the same time?

I'm not much much for being a staunch believer in fanon or headcanon though, so I'm not sure where you're coming from. Does anyone actually read HS that way, where they come off thinking Kanaya isn't gay, or that John is? What ottechoco said. Shipping isn't a betting pool.

[eibborn.livejournal.com]

man, who even cares?

[katkatrahrahrah.livejournal.com]

I always found it really silly or hard to believe that any of the trolls could be classified under one specific orientation. That's not to say that it isn't possible, but when you have 4 potential quadrants of hate/pity coupled with a species that doesn't even have a word for when two of the same gender like each other, I just throw all terms of orientation out the window.

Yes I'm aware that Hussie's confirmed Kanaya as a lesbian, but I still find it hard to accept that she's attracted to girls exclusively.

[voluntarytwitch.livejournal.com]

Ships =/= canon beliefs. I know John isn't gay, and I don't expect him to suddenly fall head over heels in love with Dave/Karkat/whoever, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy reading about and entertaining the possibility in an alternate, non-canon sense.

As for people shipping Kanaya with men, though, I agree with you that they're doing it wrong. (/doublestandard) (though this is mainly because the primary pairing is with her and Gamzee, and I... really don't like Gamzee.)