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fandomsecrets2011-04-13 04:11 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-04-13 04:11 pm
[ SECRET POST #1562 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1562 ⌋
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(Anonymous) 2011-04-14 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)you're a douchnozzle. period.
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(Anonymous) 2011-04-15 12:38 am (UTC)(link)"Don't expect to receive tolerance if you're unwilling to give it."
"Don't expect to receive tolerance if you're unwilling to give it."
"Don't expect to receive tolerance if you're unwilling to give it."
"Don't expect to receive tolerance if you're unwilling to give it."
"Don't expect to receive tolerance if you're unwilling to give it."
"Don't expect to receive tolerance if you're unwilling to give it."
"Don't expect to receive tolerance if you're unwilling to give it."
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(Anonymous) 2011-04-14 11:54 am (UTC)(link)failing x2
(Anonymous) 2011-04-15 12:19 am (UTC)(link)And you're a moderator? Way to be fucking mature. Just because you're ~offended~, doesn't mean you have to throw a fit.
Did you even read the post or did you just skim like every dumbass in the transgender communities does? (And just to be clear, I am trans and a member of multiple communities. It's not uncommon for people, including the mods, to skim over posts and ask people for information that they already mentioned.)
"The therapies ... are in place specifically for the reason that so many mental disorders can cause a person to think they are transgender when they really have some sort of mental illness."
This is not "determining their gender because of how crazy they act." Read on.
"These people would later regret going through with the hormones and surgeries since they are not actually transgender."
Believe it or not, plenty of people are misdiagnosed as being transgender! Have you never heard about people having SRS, and then having a 2nd SRS to change back because being [whatever sex] wasn't as cool as it seemed?
Look at the transgender communities. Plenty of your members are to blame for problems and insecurities that other members have. Many of them are pretty fucking sexist themselves. I don't even post anymore because I hate being questioned on my "validity of being FTM" because I don't want surgery, which has happened before. "You can't be a guy if you don't have a penis!" "You like guys? Well, why not just stay a girl?" "I don't think you look masculine enough, you should try growing a beard."
I don't give a fuck if your dislike, or "loathing" is aggressive. Be mature. You're a moderator, shouldn't you have experience with that?
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Yes, some people question their gender and later decide the conclusion they reached was wrong. This is a sad thing, and I'm not dismissing it.
But mental illness or any other disability does NOT invalidate your other identities. You can be mentally ill and trans. Trans people are people, and some people are mentally ill. Trans people do not have to be "saner" than cis people in order for their gender identities to deserve respect, and while you're at it, this is really fucking disrespectful to people who go through mental illness. You're basically telling these people, "you're crazy so obviously other people are more qualified to tell you who you are."
I'm aware I sound bitter. I AM bitter. I've been told that I couldn't really be gay because I was mentally ill. A bunch of people felt that because of some brain wiring that caused me problems, they knew whether I was gay or straight better than I ever could... and of course they decided I was straight since who the hell is actually gay? Because of this, I couldn't trust my own instincts about my sexuality for a very long time. I thought, "well, yes, I definitely feel like I'm more attracted to women, but what if I'm too fucked up to make this call on my own?"
Some mentally ill people are gay. Some mentally ill people are trans. All mentally ill people are people, and people deserve a lot better than patronizing identity policing.
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(Anonymous) 2011-04-15 12:21 am (UTC)(link)They are NOT saying that "If you're crazy, you can't be transgender!" Plenty of people are misdiagnosed as transgender. Plenty of people are fooled into believing they're transgender. Just like plenty of transgender people are misdiagnosed as not being transgender [enough].
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And yes, I do know that some people question their gender and change their mind. I already said that (and, uh, gender is an identity, not an illness, by the way). But I fail to see why it's bad to question if you're not sure, or why, if you end up with an answer you later think is incorrect, why you were "fooled" into deciding that. I do think it's really sad when people think transitioning would help them be happier and it doesn't work out, but saying "some people are trans and if you think you might be, you should look into it" isn't at all deceptive.