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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-16 04:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #1565 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1565 ⌋

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-04-16 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] the-myrah.livejournal.com 2011-04-16 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Amir is an excellent character and is one of my all time favorite protagonists. I adore him and wish more main characters were like him. Yes, he made a horrible mistake and acted poorly, but he was a kid and an insecure one at that. As for adult Amir, I'm pretty sure most people would've turned out the exact same way if they'd been through what he had. Amir is so thoroughly human and readers always expect main characters to be super humans. But I love him just the way he is.

But yeah, most people walk away from this book with a seething heart full of Amir hatred and I guess that's understandable too.
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[identity profile] vazira.livejournal.com 2011-04-16 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Amir is so thoroughly human and readers always expect main characters to be super humans.

Couldn't agree more with this.

[identity profile] goobbledigook.livejournal.com 2011-04-16 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't hate him either. I just figured that since the story is told by his perspective his flaws would be more apparent than the everyone else's.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-16 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I disliked him quite a bit at first because I thought him cowardly and noticed a little anti-India bias in him whenever India/Indians were mentioned that's quite stereotypical to Afghans... But what made me like him was the fact that he WENT BACK. So yeah. I can understand the hate, but also see the redeeming qualities.

[identity profile] visitingparis.livejournal.com 2011-04-16 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I think most people hate on the character because he's a coward. Most people would like to think they'd do the opposite of what Amir did, no matter what hell they would have to pay. But the truth of the matter is no one knows what they would actually do until that kind of situation becomes a reality. People don't like to be reminded that they have the potential to be as cowardly and flawed as Amir. Just my two cents.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_confunded_/ 2011-04-16 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
+1
Exactly my thoughts.
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[identity profile] vazira.livejournal.com 2011-04-16 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-16 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
...People hate Amir? What. Umm, isn't the whole point of the book that he was a scared little kid, made some decisions that were very costly and then tried to redeem himself/be a better person as an adult? Sometimes people don't act and regret it for years and years after. So yeah, I don't get that either.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-17 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I read this book for English class in high school not even that long ago, 2007, I think? and I don't remember exactly who's Amir and why we should hate him. cuz this was a dumb and pointless book...

[identity profile] gershwhen.livejournal.com 2011-04-17 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not surprised you missed the point of the book, you obviously totally missed the point of English class in general -- spelling, capitalization, grammar, punctuation...

[identity profile] masked-creator.livejournal.com 2011-04-17 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Amir was a kid when what happened happened. Even if he had tried to stop what happened I don't think he could have done anything. And it's not as if he doesn't feel bad about it, so I agree.

I was more traumatized by the fucked up kid bullies in the story. I hate it when the antagonists who perform such horrible acts are kids. It just makes me feel sick.

[identity profile] angary.livejournal.com 2011-04-17 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
I'm reading this book again and it astounds me how much I didn't hate Amir when I read it years ago for the first time, compared to how much I dislike the kid version of him now. He's kind of bratty, he's got everything, he uses his best friend as his own personal whipping boy and bodyguard, and his possessiveness of his father is way more unsettlign than I remember it.

However. I had to stop myself from saying I outright hate kid!Amir because of how brilliantly his issues are portrayed. As a character, he's a goldmine of layers and an honest depiction of humanity. His adult self doesn't sugarcoat how deceptive and asshatty he was as a child, and it's understandable - not cool, of course, but understandable - why he continued the cycle of emotional abuse his father passed onto him. In the end, I like that we've got two extremes in Hassan and Assef - 100% good vs. 100% evil, respectively - and Amir, the main character, wavers from one spectrum to another throughout the book, gradually maturing, making up for his mistakes, and ending up in a place where he can finally be at peace.

Also, as much as some readers - even me - can say how much of a coward he was in the alley, if he'd just done a 180 and jumped in to suddenly save Hassan, then went home to achieve reconciliation with his father, the book would probably have been a short story instead.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-17 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
OP, are you in my English class? Everyone in my class hates Amir too, even our teacher has expressed dislike for him and i don't quite get the hate. I don't think i know many people who would actually jump in to save someone if they found themselves in Amir's situation, despite that we all might like to think that we'd be heroes. Though judging by the comments on here, it seems we are not alone!