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fandomsecrets2011-04-21 07:13 pm
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(Anonymous) 2011-04-22 03:06 am (UTC)(link)I mean, I'm in undergrad right now and the only way I can participate in fandom is if I sacrifice time during the day and go to sleep at 2-4 AM every single night during the week, including the weekends, and I don't really have terrible time management. It's not as good as it could be, but it's not that bad either.
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(Anonymous) 2011-04-22 11:54 am (UTC)(link)1) Do you see these Ph.D. students every minute of every day? I'm sure at least some of the people who know me (especially undergrads I come into contact with) think I live for my classes/research. That's not true. Because...
2) I make time for fandom and other fun things. Maybe it's not the best time management but it's great for my sanity. Everyone needs time off and hobbies. I could give up everything unrelated to school and probably finish earlier or be more accomplished than I already am, but it would come at the expense of me enjoying life (and I think that would lead to academic burnout and resentment).
3) Finally, I think it depends on the discipline and the amount/kind of work that comes along with it. Not to say there are "easy" subjects to get a Ph.D. in, but there are some that don't require the same amount of, for example, time-consuming lab-based or technical/mathematical work.
And, by the way, most tenured profs in my department have as little or less free time than I do. Just because they're not under as much pressure to "publish or perish" doesn't mean they're just hanging around doing nothing all day. I am in awe of how many responsibilities my (tenured) advisor has, both in the department and in the larger academic community.
Finally, anon, you may love listening to them, but I find there's nothing more obnoxious, annoying, egotistical and self-centered than a grad student who can't carry on a conversation about something other than their own work. I will gladly talk about my own stuff, but when I'm with my friends (who are mostly in the same program as I am), we certainly don't talk about school/research nonstop. If you want to be a well-rounded, interesting person (not to mention a good friend), I don't recommend copying your behavior from them. For God's sake, I know a woman who's married, has an infant, frequently throws barbecues and whatnot, watches TV and plays video games, and is STILL one of the most productive graduate students in the department. Finding a life outside your subject of research can and in my opinion should be done.
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A fandom friend of mine is getting her doctorate in neuroscience and still manages to read and write Sherlock fiction, opine about obscure indie bands, and chat about BL with me.
It's all about time management. My own graduate program is less research intensive but I make up with it in hours of reading, archiving, and language training - yet I still manage to drink with friends a few times a week, catch up on f!s, and play about an hour of video games every single day.
As I'm sure you've seen in your program, and I've seen in mine, and something the OP needs to consider: the people who throw themselves into their programs without hobbies or time to unwind tend to suffer massive burnout and even drop their programs.
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Those types are out there, but they drive me crazy. For the rest of us, no, it's not all we talk about. Thank goodness. And I agree with anon that profs have less free time than I do. (I'd add post-docs trying to get positions to that list, too.) That's a major reason I chose an advisor who has two kids that she makes a lot of time for, pets, hobbies, other non-lab interests, and excellent social skills. I can't deal with the types of people who have nothing else about them worth doing/being/discussing besides research.
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I had friends like the people you describe, though. They got their PhDs very efficiently by eating at their desks and never sleeping :) I have one friend who managed not only an extremely time-consuming PhD, working seven days a week, but also did martial arts three times a week, ran marathons, did voluntary work with teenagers from local schools, learned to drive and went to dance classes every week. Some people just don't sleep!