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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-21 07:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #1570 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1570 ⌋


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Early day today! (:

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[identity profile] dudette-in-town.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Emotional abuse is still abuse. It doesn't have to be physical for the victim to be scared.

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I understand that. But it doesn't really go with how well-adjusted Cinderella was. Psychological and emotional abuse leave their own kinds of scars. Living in that house from rough age 9 to age 16-18 under those kinds of circumstances would have created a very different person, I think.

But I was just pointing out that if things followed logically the way people seem to want them to, we wouldn't have a movie at all. People in movies don't always act in the smartest/most logical ways; if they did, we wouldn't have many of the film genres we have (horror films would be almost nonexistent lol).

[identity profile] dudette-in-town.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The effect doesn't have to be obvious.
Speaking as a person who lived in an abusive household nobody I knew could tell. Most abuse victims mask the damage and seem perfectly normal to others. So they're not necessarily angry pessimistic people.

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Very true. I guess I'm just saying that since we see a lot of Cinderella's moments when she's alone (usually when most people feel like they can let out everything they're feeling) and she's perfectly fine, except for the occasional grumble about how awful her step-sisters are.

What I'm saying is that I doubt the movie really intended to send a "this is what you're supposed to do if you live in an abusive household" message. It was more of a "nice things happen for nice people" message. People are taking it all very seriously and it kinda ruins the fairytale magic when they do.

[identity profile] dudette-in-town.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
If Cinderella was portrayed as a nagging bitch rather than a wide eyed optimist the audience wouldn't have liked her though. It was directed towards children after all.
Ia with you on the second point, people read too much into it (I probably am right now lol) but the moral was a positive one.

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
If Cinderella was portrayed as a nagging bitch rather than a wide eyed optimist the audience wouldn't have liked her though. It was directed towards children after all.

Yea that's pretty much what I meant with my first comment. It's freaking Cinderella. She's supposed to be all rainbows and unicorns and candy floss all the time lol.

[identity profile] dudette-in-town.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly! All the Disney characters are supposed to be happy and optimistic.

[identity profile] princesoup.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
just commenting to say that holy shit your icon makes me laugh