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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-25 07:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #1574 ]

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 08:52 am (UTC)(link)
Which still smells of rape appropriation and justification.

uh what

how

[identity profile] ceruleansan.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
You don't see anything wrong with insinuating attraction leads to rape?

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
In the case of pedophilia specificially, it's really bone-headed to suggest the attraction has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Sexual offending is not the inevitable result of pedophilia.

But for fuck's sake, pedophiliac offending is distinguished from non-pedophiliac offending solely because the motivation for the crime is sexual desire and not something else.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Well. If the offender is a pedophile, of course. Plenty of child molesters aren't pedophiles.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-04-27 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, note that I said:

pedophiliac offending is distinguished from non-pedophiliac offending

By that, I meant distinguishing between molesters who are pedophiles and molesters who aren't.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course I see a problem with insinuating attraction is the cause of rape but what you said still doesn't make any fucking sense.

"Rape appropriation and justification" what the fuck are you even trying to say with that? How is that appropriation? Are you just spouting off buzzwords because you think they'll strengthen your argument even though you clearly have no idea what they mean? And how is pointing out that yes, pedophiles are influenced to rape in part by the fact that they are attracted to children - not all child molesters, just the ones that are pedophiles - 'justifying' rape?

[identity profile] ceruleansan.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
um...the fuck?

Appropriation is when you say "The child porn keeps the pedophiles off the street". If that doesn't make any sense, whatever.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
... uh... what?

Please look up the meanings of words before you try using them in conversation. Because what you said has absolutely nothing to do with appropriation.

[identity profile] ceruleansan.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah feck I mixed up words. Still, it was pretty obvious what I meant.

But I wonder why you're picking at semantics if you have nothing against what I said? Sheesh, anon.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it really wasn't. I still don't know what word you were thinking of.

Also I'm in agreement with beandelphiki rather than you, as should be obvious from the last sentence in my first comment to you.

[identity profile] ceruleansan.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
:/ Even after I stated only how many times that I think saying something like "Porn keeps rapists/pedophiles off the streets" is vile, especially considering often times the fapping causes a slippery slope?

Alright then. Since you're disagreeing with that, uh, ew. Ew.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't disagree with that. I disagree that that is the sum of beandelphiki's argument.

[identity profile] ceruleansan.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I'll be happy if it isn't. There seems to be two different points h/she's trying to make which are contradictory.