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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-25 07:38 pm

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[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-04-27 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Okay I'm kind of loling at you saying But now we're getting into a much larger argument about what sort of effect porn has on people

. . . aaand then continuing to do just that in your last two paragraphs, only in the light YOU want to to be shown in.


You misunderstood me here, I think. When I said the above, I was referring to the arguments about whether or not porn is addictive, whether or not it increases the rates of sexual violence, etc.

My last two paragraphs are about the justifications and excuses exchanged between pedophiles on message boards vs. guys who are not engaged in that sort of thing. The porn thing is just one example of how these interactions seem to influence how pedophiles FEEL about their pedophilia. I see that I probably should have used another example, since that was confusing in the context of this discussion.

(Are the guys who don't engage in those interactions and who believe porn helps them control themselves actually RIGHT? At the moment, I don't think we know. I DO think it's interesting that they approach porn that way, as opposed to the message board guys, who don't see any need to "control" themselves to begin with.)

But? "these are bad/wrong urges"? Is actually a great mindset for them to have. It is wrong, and yes they should stop it.

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Except that they, um, can't. You can't cure pedophilia.

Just. what.

...Okay I see the other anon has covered everything I would have said. So, yeah, THAT. *points up*

If you know of any pedophile who is willingly spending time with children just to ~throw society a bird~ you have an obligation to report that pedophile and get them out of that environment for the safety of the children, and for the future of that pedophile.

Anonymous pedo on the intarwebs d00d, what the fuck do you expect me to do? I'm not Perverted Justice.

You move AWAY from temptation, not sit there inches away from it with your dick in your hand.

I would generally agree, but I would mainly consider staying away from risky situations with kids to be the main thing to focus on. I'm not convinced that avoiding porn is a necessity for any given person (although it may be for some with more addictive personalities). I don't have any PROOF for how I, personally, feel about that, so we may just have to agree to disagree.

But then, if fantasizing about, and watching porn of, skeevy shit makes you dangerous despite any clear desire not to be, then I'm really goddamn dangerous.

Which I doubt.