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fandomsecrets2011-04-26 07:50 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-04-26 07:50 pm
[ SECRET POST #1575 ]
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 132 secrets from Secret Submission Post #225.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
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Lovecraftian Horror =/= Fantasy
These elements have certainly been incorporated into fantasy, especially in recent years, however the tenants of the "High Fantasy" genre is self contained, world-building myth and aversion to allegory (which uh, are things that China Mieville himself has pointed out and attributed to Tolkien as the one who caused the paradigm shift).
I dunno, this seems to me like a weird argument to even be having? I was just commiserating and admitted that my gut reactions about Tolkien are irrational. I said later on in the thread that I get why people don't read him and I'm glad the movies exist for that reason because they are fantastic?
I'm just confused about this ~*~genre~*~ that existed pre-Tolkien. Like there was the Worm Oroborous and there was Der Rings Der Nibelugen and there were all these kids books with fairies and MacDonald and a small but passionate movement to translate and modernize Nordic and Anglo-Saxon myth, but none of these things were connected or recognized as a coherent genre. That's kind of the whole point of that famous essay 'On Fairy Stories' and the big reason Lewis and Tolkien argued so much over the validity of allegory in "Fairy Stories" in the first place. ~(-_-)~
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...ok, lie, I would've still butted in on the idea that too elaborate and flowery prose can actually stall a plot, but that's a whole other can of worms that has to do mostly with personal taste :P.