[ SECRET POST #1577 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1577 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 044 secrets from Secret Submission Post #225.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeats ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Because Sucker Punch was almost entirely fetish fuel? Most of their escape was powered by Baby Doll's sexy dancing, and the plan wasn't exactly rocket science -- they even left proof written on a chalkboard! The actual scenes where we see them fight are straight-up male fantasy (sexy girls fighting in improbable outfits), and the only girl who actually escapes is the one who was most willing to go along with the status quo in the first place. THAT is why Snyder is taking heat.

(And I'm generally against all this fandom SJ bullshit to begin with, so it says something that Sucker Punch got me riled enough to wank.)

[sour-idealist.livejournal.com]

I've actually discussed this movie in a certain amount of detail here (http://sour-idealist.livejournal.com/44389.html), but point by point:

1) Sweet Pea took a while to come around, yes, but she isn't being rewarded for sticking to the status quo; she escapes by eventually defying it. Also, she was very explicitly not okay with the status quo, but she was initially more afraid of getting her sister killed.

2) The plan was "locate exit and key, create distraction, stab anyone who gets in our way." Not unnecessarily complicated, but it would work.

3) Yes. The escape was powered by Baby Doll's unseen dancing. This would be a case of a woman turning her exploitation back on itself and taking control by using it to further her own ends.

And the outfits thing is a complicated question. First of all, the intent seems to be to shame the people who might normally be aroused by it; second, it makes sense from a psychological standpoint if the girls had in some way internalized the idea that they had to be sexy (which happens).

Most of all, though, the fact that they looked sexy does not erase the fact that it's still a movie about a group of women coming together and supporting each other to achieve their own ends, and that the story was entirely about their journey and their struggle to gain control of their own lives. I am sure as hell not saying it was perfect, but I'm saying that's a lot closer to right than a story wherein women don't even have a presence or personality and are immediately killed off not so that we will mourn them, but so that the audience will have a reason to feel sorry for the hero. Sucker Punch was definitely not perfect, but it was far from the most sexist action flick in recent memory.

TL;DR: 5 scantily-clad female heroes > no major female characters, and the Sucker Punch ladies were a lot more than just their bodies in the film; it's the critics who are reducing them to their clothes.

[immortality.livejournal.com]

I love you so much for this. Just saying.

[sour-idealist.livejournal.com]

Thank you. ♥