[ SECRET POST #1577 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1577 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 044 secrets from Secret Submission Post #225.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeats ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: ALSO

[(Anonymous)]

Just because Show A does it worse than Show B doesn't mean Show B should be excused.

Re: ALSO

[anthropomorphe.livejournal.com]

You missed my point. If Bakemonogatari was indeed objectifying women to the extent where it would be genuinely a concern, then it would be like Seikon no Qwaser, because that is what the Seikon no Qwaser anime did. ...Granted, it was so bad it was good, and I never stopped laughing at it constantly, since was like a really good parody, but still.

Bakemonogatari is not in the least bit ~*oppressive*~ or propaganda that males should lock their wives in kitchens because they can't walk out of the house without getting assailed by anthropomorphic personifications of supernatural myths.

Shit, could I have made any MORE typos?

Re: ALSO

[(Anonymous)]

I would say that the objectification of people in any degree is almost always problematic? D:

Bakemonogatari is not in the least bit ~*oppressive*~ or propaganda that males should lock their wives in kitchens because they can't walk out of the house without getting assailed by anthropomorphic personifications of supernatural myths.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that - that's a little extreme - but there are implications in the show that I'm not fully comfortable with. (Women need men to save them - highlighted by the fact that, well, Senjougahara told Araragi that one of the things she liked about him is that he jumps in all the time to save her, despite the fact that she kind of saved him just as much as he saved her, as far as I can remember. Also underscored by the fact that all the female characters needed saving.)

Re: ALSO

[anthropomorphe.livejournal.com]

I would say that the objectification of people in any degree is almost always problematic? D:

It's what makes the porn industry their money, so idk.

Women need men to save them - highlighted by the fact that, well, Senjougahara told Araragi that one of the things she liked about him is that he jumps in all the time to save her,

That's because, in Japanese society, they're huge on the whole MY BUSINESS IS MINE SO YOU CAN FUCK OFF, and Rararagi-san's habit of butting in to help is frowned upon in general but something she personally likes about him.

Or that's how I interpreted it!

Also underscored by the fact that all the female characters needed saving.)

Arararagi-san's the main character, as well as having the "resources" of Oshino's help, so of course he's gonna save them all. Aryaryagi-san's character is centered around the fact he's a busybody who's trying to help everyone he meets, and the people he meets just happen to be female. It'd make a shit story if Kanbaru was following him and she had absolutely nothing wrong, considering that's an entire arc of character development they just wasted. And Senjougahara is the one that saves her, anyway, because Araryagi-san was busy getting strangled with his play-dough intestines.

If I'm 100% honest, AND I ALWAYS AM ;D, I don't see why the gender was brought up at all. I don't focus on it, I just focus on the quality of the characters, their personal dilemmas and the way the story progresses to solve their problems in a way that doesn't open up a corner store of dimensional plot warpholes.