[ SECRET POST #1580 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1580 ⌋


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Comments

[atheist-cheese.livejournal.com]

why so? I'm curious to know why you think so. to me he's pretty clearly sociopathic, but maybe I'm not looking at it from the right angle.

[yuzigangstalady.livejournal.com]

I'm not an expert in psychology, but a sociopath is someone who lacks the ability to care for others, and views people as 'things' to use, as opposed to actual human beings. Maybe in the first two books Toreth could have fit the profile of a sociopath, but definitely not in the others. (His obvious care and protectivenss of Sara, his attachment and affection to Warrick, etc. In First Against the Wall he goes back to I&I because he's concerned for Chevril and members of his team.)

Toreth strikes me more as having developed a dislike of intimancy, and a use for violence/manipulation because of the environment he grew up in, as opposed to actually having a personality disorder like sociopathy. Feel free to argue with me on this point, btw.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the problem with sociopaths is that people think it's a clear-cut category, but the way I understand it there are degrees of sociopathy, just like with any other personality disorder. Toreth may not be a typical or extreme case of sociopathy, because he IS capable of caring for others in a few selected cases, but that doesn't mean he's not a sociopath at all.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not only a dislike of intimacy and use for violence; Torreth is an extremly selfish person. He DOES view most people as things to use. He's most definitely a sociopath, but as the person above said, there are different grades. He's not the 100% clear-cut case of one, but in my eyes there's no doubt about him having that personality disorder.

(God, I sound so defensive. It's not my intention. English isn't my first language and I tend to write it a bit crudely. I'm sorry.)