[ SECRET POST #1582 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1582 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 125 secrets from Secret Submission Post #226.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - omgiknowthem ], [ 0 - take it to comments ], [ 0 - repeats ]
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Comments

[haro.livejournal.com]

I guess I don't, because while I agree fandom goes overboard with moe-izing him from time to time, most of what the person seems to want from the secret... doesn't really occur in canon? I mean it starts with "England is not a blushing little tsundere," when he really is... exactly that (not that he can't be more than just that, but yeah).

Truthfully I rarely see England as what I'd call a simpering pushover in Western fandom? But I'm willing to admit that it used to be more common than it is now. As for pining, I kind of think he does pine in the strips. Again, it can go over the top, but still.

[miezen.livejournal.com]

Fair enough. To be fair I'm somewhat removed from the loop because I don't read much USUK or FrUK or any other ship where England is commonly the uke very often, so most of what I see is plot synopses and miscellaneous snippets from things that I catch either while scrolling through the kink meme or because someone posted a paragraph or two of something elsewhere for whatever reason (usually to point out how bad it is but not always). I'm willing to believe that it's not actually as common as it looks to an outsider, but it's still there and it's still annoying.

My problem with it is that, while yeah England is a derp and he was never this superbadass that people expect him to be, he's also not really the uke archetype and it feels weird to write him like that. Also it's very common for people to completely disregard that he's an old nation and has ties with a lot of countries in USUK, FrUK, etc, and that kinda bothers me, too.

I guess basically I see what this secret is trying to get at and I mostly agree with it (save for the expecting him to be a badass because history), but it's really poorly worded. I have similar complaints, anyway, so I guess that's why I'm seeing where this secret makes sense. Again, I think both sides go too far, even if the ultra moefication isn't as common as it can seem.