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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-06 08:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #1585 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1585 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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02.
[Shoujo Kakumei Utena]


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03.
[Pirates of the Caribbean]


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04.
[Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders, Loom]


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05.
[Westminster Bagcarrier]


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07. [repeat]


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08.
[Eek! The Cat, Garfield]


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09.
[Gintama]


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10.
[Sassy Gay Friend]


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11.
[Doctor Who]


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12.
[florence and the machine]


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14.
[Inception]


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15.
[fakenews_fanfic]


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16.
[Ace Attorney]


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17.
[alex o'loughlin/the invisible]


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18.
[G.A.B.E.]


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20.
[The Black Cauldron]


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21.
[Pokemon]


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22.
[Girls Next Door by Pika-la-Cynique]


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23.
[Cuanta Vida]


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24.
[John Lennon]


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25.
[Tangled/The Enchanted Forest Chronicles]


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[Inception]


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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]









28. [SPOILERS for Puella Magi Madoka Magica]



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29. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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30. [SPOILERS for Super]



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31. [repeat]


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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]









32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]

[Doctor Who]


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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]



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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, abuse]








Notes:

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
33.
http://i.imgur.com/ofCmz.jpg
[Doctor Who]
ext_396211: Fucking Gallaghers (Default)

[identity profile] sensualcoco.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
It's funny, the difference between reality and fiction. When something horrible happens in real life I just get angry and bitter but don't let it show. When something sad happens in fiction I can loosen up and cry. Don't feel guilty, it might not have anything to do with how sad you actually are but more with how you express it or deal with it in different situations.

As for the Doctor, I wasn't sad at his scene just because I can't believe he's actually gone for. He told the others not to interfere, he left the notes. I'm sure there's some clever plan up his sleeves.

[identity profile] indevoutly.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
You shouldn't feel guilty. You really shouldn't.

Personal events are often overwhelming, so much so that you don't even feel like you are affected. Often, it's the little things that trigger you into realise your grief. When my grandfather died, I didn't feel anything - it was only when my grandmother gave me a candle of a different colour to the other mourners that I burst into tears.

The Doctor's "death" is a much more detached event. You know how to deal with television grief - it's less intimate and scary.

There's nothing wrong with you at all.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-07 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
When my Grandfather died, I didn't really feel like I was grieving properly, and I didn't really cry that much. Then my Grandmother gave me a couple of tomato plants, and as I was setting them up in the garden I remembered my Grandfather telling me about his own father moving into a house with a garden for the first time, and how wonderful it was, and how he used to love growing flowers and vegetables, and how he taught my Grandfather to grow things, and I thought of my grandparents old, big garden, which always used to be full of raised flower beds and fruits and vegetables, and how I'd always known my Grandmother had loved gardening but had never really thought of my Grandfather being into it, whereas in retrospect it was clearly something they shared, and now my Grandmother is all alone in a sheltered-housing flat with no garden, and they won't even let her grow plants on the patio outside her door, and I was just crying in the garden over a couple of tomato plants.

Really big sobs over tomatoes, and it's not like I really associated tomatoes with my grandparents.

Grief in real life is weird.

[identity profile] megabluelove.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Well honestly I find it hard to cry about suicides, I normally get mad and wonder why someone would do something so selfish when there is always a better way out.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
You know, the OP's not given a clear indication of how they feel about it. Maybe they feel like their aunt's suicide was selfish, and maybe they don't and it's potentially hurtful to them for you to have said, "Hey, your aunt was so selfish! There was a better way, 'cuz there always is, FYI."

Either way, this was a thoughtless thing for you to have said unprompted.

[identity profile] megabluelove.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry I don't feel bad. They made the point that a fictional character possibly dying is more emotion inducing than their real life family member committing suicide.. that says a lot about how they must have felt about it.

[identity profile] megabluelove.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
lol alright.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-07 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
There's not always a better way out. My father had terminal cancer and he committed suicide before he reached the point of being unable to care for himself. It was his choice, and the only other "better way out" for him was a long painful drawn-out death. It was sad to lose him, but I understand why he chose suicide and I'm glad he was able to go on his own terms. Not everyone has a better/nicer/happier option.

Your comment smacks of ignorance.

[identity profile] megabluelove.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
No you are right, I wasn't thinking. Let me elaborate a bit more, the suicides I have known personally were people who didn't have it hard, who did it over nothing that couldn't be fixed and had help all around them but they refused it. I had a hard time crying over what they had done. I have a very strong will to live and even in my worse moments I never even glanced at the thought of suicide. So in some cases of suicide where people kill themselves over not finding love or money troubles or they feel they don't fit in enough, I believe there is another way out and I still find it selfish in the sense you are in such a great amount of pain you would rather leave it behind for everyone who cared about you to deal with instead of dealing with it yourself. I believe that is wrong.

I shouldn't have made such a vague comment as the opinions on suicide should be taken case by case basis. I did however lack in sensitivity in my comment because I found what the secret explained itself lacked in sensitivity.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
Suicide is the most drastic choice you can make with your own life; people who make it do so because they don't perceive another way out.

The fact that you do is irrelevant here. You might be able to perceive blue, but that doesn't mean someone with blue-green colorblindness can.

[identity profile] megabluelove.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Right right, we can debate about right and wrong in the hands of each person. One person might perceive having sex with a child is not wrong and another person might. Let's just say I side with a majority of society who believe suicide is not the answer.

WARNING, COULD BE POTENTIALLY TRIGGERING

(Anonymous) 2011-05-07 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
By the way... "Well honestly I find it hard to cry about suicides, I normally get mad and wonder why someone would do something so selfish when there is always a better way out."

Excuse me? I've dealt with suicidal impulses for almost my entire life. Over the last ten years, I've had to deal with both my grandparents dying, my mother almost dying, my parents' divorce, father's arrest, moving six times (in two years), being physically abused by my first boyfriend, being thrown out of my own house, my mother and brother no longer speaking to me, and emotionally abused by whoever wanted a crack at me (for example my brother/mother, while when I tried to tell my father about it, I was told to "Stop, I was being depressing"), etc... I had therapy, but it didn't work. My mother would always tell me how the doctor was wrong, I was lying, and I was a "sick little girl". I have to deal with day to day problems like shyness, an inferiority/insecurity complex, a complete lack of self-esteem and depression. I might even be high functioning autistic (which would actually explain a HELL of a lot). /ripping story, chap

So nice to see that you have so little respect for people like me.

Re: WARNING, COULD BE POTENTIALLY TRIGGERING

[identity profile] megabluelove.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well you are still here, so thats a good sign you are stronger than you think.
Edited 2011-05-07 11:30 (UTC)

[identity profile] citrinesunset.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Don't feel guilty. I don't think how much you cry is necessarily the best indication of how major something is. As others have mentioned, sometimes we react differently to major real life things than we do to smaller things.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
Real-life tragedy is complex.

Bad things happening to fictional characters is simple.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-07 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
Why would you even cry at that scene? They wouldn't kill off the main character of the show in episode one of a new series.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-07 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, they have at least made it plausible that he could really be dead, because that is him 200 years older than the regular timeline. Personally, I think it is unlikely because it would prevent future actors taking over and the franchise continuing, but it amuses me to imagine Moffat going 'Right! Let's see the buggers solve this when Matt and I leave.' Of course, in reality we'll almost certainly come back to this beginning at the end of the season, which I think is a cool way to structure it.

[identity profile] manatees.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This is what I think. Oh Moff, trolly even unto the end.

[identity profile] puddinchan.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny, I cried more at the suicide of one of my underclassmen two years my junior, who was a complete stranger, than at the death of my favourite character.