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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-06 08:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #1585 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1585 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Shoujo Kakumei Utena]


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[Pirates of the Caribbean]


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[Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders, Loom]


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[Westminster Bagcarrier]


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07. [repeat]


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[Eek! The Cat, Garfield]


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[Gintama]


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[Sassy Gay Friend]


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[Doctor Who]


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[florence and the machine]


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[Inception]


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[fakenews_fanfic]


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[Ace Attorney]


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[alex o'loughlin/the invisible]


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[G.A.B.E.]


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[The Black Cauldron]


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[Pokemon]


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[Girls Next Door by Pika-la-Cynique]


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[Cuanta Vida]


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[John Lennon]


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[Tangled/The Enchanted Forest Chronicles]


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[Inception]


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28. [SPOILERS for Puella Magi Madoka Magica]



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29. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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30. [SPOILERS for Super]



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31. [repeat]


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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]

[Doctor Who]


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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]



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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, abuse]








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[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Chiming in just to agree with the above anon; at least in the Western nations where I know anything of class issues, there is a system in place to essentially punish people for being poor by making them poorer...and then say, basically, that poor people deserve it and brought it on themselves.

Being of a higher class (even middle class versus working class) gives you innumerable advantages off the top - like better health care, better education, and subtler, harder-to-define privileges like the ability to know the "right" way to dress or act sometimes, or having a better "network" within your profession.

Class privilege is usually generationally cumulative: higher-class people have children who remain that class or do better, while lower-class people can rarely manage to close the gap and fall farther behind with each passing generation that the issue is not addressed.

Black families, for example, in America have been subjected to generations worth of racialized economic discrimination. The result? The total net worth of the average black family is one-eighth that of the average white family.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-07 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you both for the info.

I think this has just been a lack of education on my part. I'm not from the USA, but thinking about the stuff you've mentioned, I can see that it does affect people here as well. Living where I do, it's just not been something I've been confronted with since I was young.

I'm always glad to learn something, though this is all rather depressing actually. Thanks again for the explanations.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-07 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I know here in the UK it gets really mixed up, firstly because when people talk about greater social mobility they never really mean anyone should be moving down in power or social status, and that would be a necessary part of real mobility, and secondly because class is largely about social and cultural stuff, which is strongly linked to money, power and occupation, but the cause and effect are not quite the same way round as in many other places. This makes classism simultaneously easier to spot (once you pay attention) and more insidious (because it ties in to so many other things).

So a middle class family can have a lower income than a working class one, but still have longer life expectancy, greater access to the arts, more political power, a more socially useful network (Tabitha needs a job: who do her parents know?), and more positive portrayal in the media. Plus, a general confidence and expectation that things will go their way.

On a note about portrayals in the media, Doctor Who has actually been pretty good, all things considered, but Merlin has been shocking. Seriously, did you see the whole thing with the troll? Barely even disguised.

[identity profile] manatees.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Doctor Who is pretty good about it. Just in terms of companions we've had someone from an estate (Rose), a professional (Martha), an ordinary office worker (Donna) and someone of undisclosed class (Amy). Actually that's a really interesting thing - Amy's class is sort of hard to judge, but seeing as she could afford a nice big house (I know there were the cracks but still!) on a kissogram's wage leads me to think her family had *some* money.

Interestingly in S6, we see her and Rory's flat without knowing their jobs, although presumably Rory's a nurse going by his comments in 6.02.

Soaps in the UK are also very interesting to explore from a class angle as they're probably the last bastion of celebrating lower income/working class life - and I love the movement towards portraying LGBT people from these backgrounds in them.