[ SECRET POST #1588 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1588 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 160 secrets from Secret Submission Post #227.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ],
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

OH BOY this again

inb4 shotie accuses them of threatening women with rape and mysteriously disappears when asked for proof

[jukeboxhound.livejournal.com]

Eh, have a couple links: the unfunny_fandom report (http://www.journalfen.net/community/unfunny_fandom/6995.html) and a rather well-written article (http://thephoenix.com/Boston/life/116456-gaming-rape-culture-and-how-i-stopped-reading-pe/?page=1#TOPCONTENT).

[(Anonymous)]

...yes, i'm aware of the dickwolves debacle. i'm speaking specifically of mike and jerry actually threatening someone with rape, do you have a direct link to that? because <lj user="shotie" has talked about this multiple times without ever backing it up and i'm preeetty sure that would be all the fuck over the internet if it had ever actually happened.

[jukeboxhound.livejournal.com]

Mike and Jerry outright threatening rape themselves, no. What it seems like to me is that an immature joke got out of hand and that they dealt with it immaturely in a way that, however, accidentally, unconsciously, or implicitly, did support rape culture. But the dickwolves debacle (and some of their earlier strips) is the only time I've heard of them being associated with it.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, that sounds about right. :S

thanks for the links, anyway, i hadn't seen either of these before and they're good alternatives to following breadcrumb trails to different blogs and people to figure out what all went down.

[(Anonymous)]

There's also a good tumblr that has collected a lot of links in one place:

http://debacle.tumblr.com/post/3041940865/the-pratfall-of-penny-arcade-a-timeline

It's a timeline of the debacle with most of the big comments there.

The thing that has shocked me most about this debacle is how little the PA guys want to take responsibility for the fact that they aren't just dudes anymore, but celebrities that represent a media empire, and consequently they have to think about how their words affect not only themselves, but those they work with and support. Each dumbass comment takes money out of Kiko's pocket, out of the pockets of their employees, and possibly deprives the Child's Play kids of more donations. It's incredibly selfish to willfully ignore this because you think you should have the right to be inflammatory to the internet.

Also, Gabe is just such a bully to people - during this whole thing he posted so many links to people in his twitter while making fun of them. Of course his minions piled on the blog authors of the links and started a big ol' hatefest. He's said before, during the Jack Thompson shit, that he understands he can wield his fans like a sword, and he does so. How does stomping over someone who disagrees with you via sheer force anything BUT bulllying?

[(Anonymous)]

Also yes, you need to understand that Gabe is so out of touch, he honestly defended Pick-up Artist behaviour for a hot minute. Classes in which men are taught to treat women as animals, and that you must break down their confidence, or 'neg' them sometimes in order to keep them in line. It was mostly due to a huge misundertstanding for what PUA actually is and does, but he does that a lot - passes judgement or defends something without really do any research. He's a very 'surface' guy. He did give out a sort of half-apology about that later though.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt, but D: are you serious? jeez, gabe, why?

(also, do you have links?)