[ SECRET POST #1588 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1588 ⌋


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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ],
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Comments

[wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com]

Ah, that makes a bit more sense. (I haven't got any context since I don't watch the show). I understand what you're saying now. I guess you could still read the other ponies as white or Asian. Differentiating a black cartoon character always makes things tough cuz you have to differentiate skin tone. That puts you in a tough spot. But it's also easier. Can you imagine if they drew a "brown" pony who was Indian, or an Asian pony with slanted eyes? I shudder at the thought.

I think TV really needs to make an effort to show ALL kinds of people and not just make sure they tick all the trope boxes.

I think that when people do their hand-wringing about "But if I don't do it perfectly, I'll get yelled at, so I just won't write PoC at all!", they're being ridiculous.

I honestly wish more people would take these kinds of risks in writing. If they never do, the portrayal of certain groups will never get better. The first step to being creative is that you can't be afraid to get it wrong. That's why kids are so much better at that stuff than adults.

But...if the best someone has manged to do is a stereotype or caricature or token, then I think criticizing that is valid.


I'm flexible with whether I think "stereotypes" and "tokens" are bad. Obviously caricatures are a complete distortion of what actually exists, but I think a character can fit a stereotype or be a "token" without that being a bad thing. I think that I differ from a lot of people because they flat out see those two things as bad. I guess being a "token" for so long has given me a different outlook on things.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's just because, while yes there ARE people out there like that, there's already PLENTY of media out there that shows stereotypical/token characters that they can feel represents them. There is no lack of it.
Perhaps we should move into the territory for the people who don't fit into that small window?

[wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com]

Yea I said that. The media has to start representing more types of people instead of just ticking the usual boxes. That doesn't mean that having "token" or stereotypical representations of people is always 100% a bad thing in the way that a lot of people seem to believe. That's all I was trying to say really.