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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-16 07:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #1595 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1595 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2011-05-17 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who has pirated a few games... no, it doesn't. And if/when I get enough spare cash that I can afford to buy them without going hungry? I will, without a doubt. I'm not a bad person, but I am in bad circumstances, and tbh, sometimes the games make it easier to bear. It's a reason, not a justification, nor an excuse. Take it as you like.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-17 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for costing me my job.

Here's a funny thing, when I can't afford anything, and as of two weeks ago, I can't anymore, because gaming companies are going south...I don't get it. Imagine that!

(Anonymous) 2011-05-17 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Could it be because no one has the money to spend on anything besides their bills? But, no, that's be logical.

LET'S BLAME PIRATES.

Funny thing, brosis? If they pirate it because they can't afford it, they... wouldn't have bought it anyway. So you'd still be out of a job because the video game companies are going south because people can't afford to buy it.

But, again, that's logical.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-17 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
They fear the logic, I think.

Honestly, it's not wonder this one is out of a job. His mental capacities are obviously not particularly impressive.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-18 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me help you.

We've got a 75% torrent rate on one of our iPhone games.

That's right. iPhone. You're telling me that people can afford iPhones, but CAN'T afford the $.99-$6.99 for a game? That's interesting!

(Anonymous) 2011-05-17 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
That is... perhaps the most ludicrous accusation I've ever been on the receiving end of.

Even if I hadn't of pirated a few games (and of those, you have no idea of knowing whether or not they came from a company you worked for, which just makes this even more ridiculous), I still would not have been able to help you keep your job, as I cannot afford to buy the games you made. I would not have been able to contribute. So how is it my fault?

And by the way. The PC gaming market has been in decline for years, and it's not because of piracy. Every new wave of PC games that come out have higher requirements requiring better hardware to play them. A system that was able to perfectly play one game will not be guaranteed to play another that comes out six months later. And right now, in case you haven't noticed, many places are in a state of declining economy; people can no longer afford to just buy a new computer whenever a new game comes out. People can't afford to upgrade their systems every few months anymore, so they can't play the games, and therefore don't buy them. THAT is why the PC market is declining right now. Piracy has been around for as long as there have been games to play, even throughout the golden ages of PC games; it wasn't until the economy took a dive that the market took a hit.

Also, do not preach to me about not being able to afford anything for a scant two weeks. Go eight years living so far beyond your means that your next meal is never guaranteed, where the very next week you may be sleeping in your car, and then talk to me about going without. The only reason I even have a working computer -- which is several years old and put together from spare computer parts that were given to me -- is because it is a requirement for the little money my family is able to make. I do not, EVER, have a spare $60 to spare on something as luxurious as a video game. So tell you what. You go eight years without a single luxury to your name, and then tell me I'm so horrible for downloading a few games online.

Asshole.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-18 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I lost my job two weeks ago. I've got enough in savings while I look for something new, because I don't live beyond my means.

Also, not all PC games are $60. The games I sold weren't. They were less than a price of a meal at McDonalds. Sometimes, less than the price of a gallon of gas. They can be played on systems older than my dog (he's 7, by the way)

You are horrible for stealing. Sorry, but you are.

And I'll see your eight years of sleeping in your car, and raise you eating the same sandwich for four days, without refrigeration. I've been there too. Except I didn't have a working computer. I used the libraries.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-17 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
If you can't afford things, you shouldn't get to have them. Do you walk out of clothing stores with nice clothes you can't afford because they'll make being poor 'easier to bear'?

I'm like the other anon, I'm entertainment industry and I'm unemployed. It's currently incredibly hard out there for us, in part because of pirating. Let me explain how it works:

-Company makes X show. Bigwigs sit and wait to see if the money comes back.
-Money comes back, but notsomuch - show has gigantic fanbase but for some reason no one is watching it on TV/paying for the DVDs
-Bigwigs get pissed, decide that the next show they invest in they'll put less money into
-Quality of television goes down because we have less money to make shows
-People stop watching because there's no quality tv, investors put even LESS money out there
-Television is ruined

That's dramatic, but you get the point - pirating actually DOES have an effect on tv, and it shocks me that people who claim to love television so much are so determined to bring down the overall quality of tv for everyone.

Every time something is pirated by a fan, you're not respecting us at all, you're spitting in our faces. We made something, and if you can't afford to pay for it, then don't indulge in it. There's no OTHER industry where taking the fruits of someone's labor for free is considered OK.

It's almost like 'don't buy stuff you cannot afford', but imagine it's 'don't steal stuff and use 'But I waaaaaants it' as a petty justification to be a thief'.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/dont-buy-stuff/27169/

(Anonymous) 2011-05-17 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
WELCOME TO THE RECESSION.

First of all, your input has no value you with me, because I don't pirate anything but the occasional video game here and there. Second of all, let's take a different approach to this little diagram of yours.

-Company makes X Show. Bigwigs sit and wait to see if the money comes back.
-Cable providing services raise prices because of the recession.
-N% of people are forced to drop their cable in favor of eating and keeping gas in the tank. (This would be me.)
-Money comes back, but notsomuch - show has gigantic fanbase but no one can afford the service to watch it.
-Bigwigs get pissed, decide that the next show they invest in they'll put less money into
-Quality of television goes down because we have less money to make shows
-People who still have cable stop watching because there's no quality tv, investors put even LESS money out there
-Television is ruined

In my area, the above is the way it goes more often than not. None of the people I know still have TV; if they can afford it, they use Netflix. Otherwise, they make do in other ways. Piracy may have contributed to this, but other things did too, so don't pretend it's OMG ALL THE PIRATES FAULT.

Also.

'don't steal stuff and use 'But I waaaaaants it' as a petty justification to be a thief'.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID IT? I'm NOT using it as a justification. I'm not using it as an excuse. Times are hard, fuck yeah. But that doesn't entitle me or anyone else to break the law. I've said in several places here that no, it's very not okay to do what I'm doing. And in a perfect world, I wouldn't need to. But it's not always about just ~wanting~ it. Sometimes it's about going-out-of-your-skull-insane and needing a distraction so bad because your depression (which is entirely based on your circumstances) is at a peak and you have nothing else. It's about being so hungry you can't even think and being unable to do anything about it because you have no food and no money to get more. It's about being under so much stress because the rent is due tomorrow and you don't have it that you're spending all your time in the bathroom throwing up.

At those times? I'm really fucking glad I pirated the games. The brief bits of happiness are worth the guilt at doing something less than legal. Does that make it okay? OF FUCKING COURSE NOT. But it's a reason. In the same way that being starving makes you steal food. It's not okay to steal it, but you have a reason to do so. A REASON. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop acting like I'm using it as an excuse; I'm not, and I've said over and over that I'm not.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-18 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Libraries are free. Books are neat. They don't move on their own however.

Pencil and paper costs less than a buck, (Which...is more than some video games!) You can draw with those, which is kind of a new way to go about not being depressed.

Yarn costs a buck, knitting needles can cost pennies at a second hand store. Learn a new craft. You can probably ask for a crochet hook from a friend or a LYS.

There are also PLENTY of flash games you could play.

You want a shiny ass video game instead of going out there and figuring something out for yourself. Want a game so bad? Get another job. Do something else that can bring money in. You're just as bad as the people who pirate games just because they don't FEEL like paying for them. You're just trying to justify it.