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fandomsecrets2011-05-27 07:56 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-05-27 07:56 pm
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Because they don't all want to.
So would you then accuse non-transitioning cis people of likewise supporting the fallacy of essentialism? If not, then why do you accuse transitioning trans people of doing so?
But I actually do know cis men who are just as happy in a dress as they are in pants.
Good for them, and no reason why not, seeing as how 'dress' is only gendered female because of society. But your point is?
DA
(Anonymous) 2011-05-29 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)That is the point. Gender is a construct; sex is not. But I think, at the end of the day, it really comes down to a difference in how people view the terms. From a sociological standpoint, feeling that one's sex is incorrect is different from feeling that one's gender is incorrect. You can have a man who feels the most comfortable adopting female gender characteristics but who nonetheless wants to physically remain male; you can have a man who transitions to a woman but who nonetheless feels the most comfortable adopting male gender characteristics. And those particular gender characteristics, and whether or not they're coded as "male" or "female," will change depending on the society and culture.
It seems to me that the real problem is that the current language is incredibly imperfect. There's a whole spectrum of sexual and gender identity, and I'm of the mind that even cis/trans doesn't quite capture that.
Re: DA
It's mostly a problem with language, as you say, and most of the time trans people are usually referring to their sex feeling incorrect, but the current state of language has people equating sex with gender, so the latter term is used. I read about how the move from considering transgenderism to be a disorder of gender rather than sex was how psychiatrists did not consider it a sexual disorder/fetish, and so calling it transgenderism instead of transsexuality removed that ambiguity and some of the stigma.
meanwhile, I know someone from the Internet who was dysphoric enough to transition to female, and was a lot more comfortable with a female body, but still identified as a man.