http://fscom.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-02 12:06 am

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[identity profile] rayiroth.livejournal.com 2011-06-02 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
I love how missing the point just about all of the comments are.

OP, as someone who have lived in several cultures with possible disconnection with their cultural heritage, may I just say that the moment you are put in the position when there are a class of cultures that could be made into you, it will always end up as a "what if". Despite of the amount of FUCKYEAHAMERICA in this thread, the reality is that every culture (YES, every single one) has its pros and cons, and its natural to wonder what ifs and chances are the what ifs you are wondering are also valid.

I think, this column (http://therumpus.net/2011/04/dear-sugar-the-rumpus-advice-column-71-the-ghost-ship-that-didnt-carry-us/) is about something else altogether, the wondering of one to whether have children or not, but coming down to it, the other life is the parallel ghost ship that is good to wonder about but it is a missed ghost ship.

As for me personally? I think if I grew up in my hometown and heritage, I would have less cultural identity issues as it would be an issue I never ever have to think about, but I would also be a lot less tolerating, far more bigoted and far more xenophobic simply because I have never went through the same vein of being an outsider and having the confusion. Hell, I might even be replying with 'WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY YOU TRAITOR WEEABOO DON'T YOU KNOW THAT COUNTRY DOES/DOES NOT ________(insert false statement learned from 4channers who also never had to question their cultural identity).

[identity profile] rayiroth.livejournal.com 2011-06-02 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Also - always take a grain of salt regard to what living in another culture is like, if it's from some "weird hunter snark blogger" who's really into it to make a song and dance about how everyone outside of their culture is "weird".

Basically, 99% of the blogs of "lol I live in Japan look how weird people are and they are short".

[identity profile] ecoerrante.livejournal.com 2011-06-02 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
Er, more if a side note, but there isn't exactly a whole of 'FUCKYEAHAMERICA' in this thread so much as a 'Well, you do realize that Japan is not X,Y, and Z but more A,B, and C, right?'' Which...is really not the same thing.

Other than that, I actually agree with you for the most part. I did grow up in my hometown, and 'heritage' culture, such as it is, and honestly? There are times, I think, when everyone wonders about that 'ghost ship life'.

[identity profile] rayiroth.livejournal.com 2011-06-02 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
I found the whole "let me take an isolated issue that may or may not even be real from Japan, blow it up and claim this is all Japanese culture is about and why America is superior because we don't have this particular issue that probably is just an urban legend to start with" attitude off putting.

Which is hilarious too, because had I grew up in one culture only, I'd be exactly like that.

[identity profile] relmneiko.livejournal.com 2011-06-02 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah this. I do think it's kind of an extreme reaction to some young weeaboo types who have really idealized images of Japan, though. But hurghhh I swear you meet two kinds of white foreigners in Japan: those people who take it for what it is (a mix of good and bad things, just like everywhere else on the planet) and stfu, and those people who feel the need to complain constantly about everything that isn't like the US their country. This thread has way too much of the latter.

[identity profile] rayiroth.livejournal.com 2011-06-03 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair I shouldn't make it sound like it's an US-exclusive problem. I swear, the number of family friends I know who would complain over things like "oh nz suxxorz not enough big malls lulz" makes me wonder, dude, did you even read the package before moving? If you want big malls and giant cities, why freakin' New Zealand? *facepalm*.

The problem comes with anything else - the whiniest are the loudest. The ones who are there but willing to adjust and live are hardly likely to update 4 times a day about how their lives suck. That skews the "what Japan is like for a foreigner blog" pool a bit.

To be honest? I don't think I can live in Japan for more than two months because I don't think it will suit me. It's hardly Japan's fault, is it.

OP

(Anonymous) 2011-06-02 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for being one of the few people who comprehended it's "what if". I was beginning to wonder why all the comments were about moving and living there now and telling me Japan is like this and that. I know of the culture aside from the fandom and it's those types of comments which make me wonder if growing up there would've been easier. The "ghost ship" as it were.

I imagine the reverse situation would be a Caucasian kid growing up in Japan wondering if their life would've been easier if they grew up in America. Although they are Japanese because they grew up there, they don't look it. People they meet are always asking them what type of "white" they are. American, European, Australian? But they aren't any of them. People always being amazed at how fluent their Japanese is, but of course it is. It's their native language. And just knowing you obviously have another culture (you can see it in the mirror) but you don't know much about it because your family has decided to become completely immersed in Japanese culture.

That's how I feel living in America, but looking Japanese. Which is why I wonder what it would be like if I had grown up in Japan.

Re: OP

[identity profile] rayiroth.livejournal.com 2011-06-03 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Hey OP, we are in different boats here as technically speaking, I am "connected" to my birth place even though I have grown distant to it. But I can say this - the best thing about growing up in conflict of cultures is that I have learned that there's no perfect culture background for me. I would love some elements of one but not so much the other elements, and trying to pick and mix one that suits me in every way would be as hard as pick a political party that suits me in every way.

It's confrontational, but in the end now I know that it's okay to not fully "belong" belong to anywhere. For that, I am glad.

Good luck, OP. :)