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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-03 08:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #1613 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1613 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[the Boondocks]


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[Tales of Vesperia]


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[Emilie Autumn/Transformice]


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[Amnesia]


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[Madlax]


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[Being Human]


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[Final Fantasy/RP]


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[Knights of the Old Republic]


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[Psychoville]


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[The Flaming Lips]


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[Young Justice]


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[Hetalia]


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19. [SPOILERS for Hawaii Five-O]



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20. [SPOILERS for Bones]



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21. [SPOILERS for Bones]



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22. [SPOILERS for Surprise of Suzumiya Haruhi]



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23. [SPOILERS for Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides]



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24. [SPOILERS for something idk they didnt say what]



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Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-04 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not going to say Joss doesn't have some problematic themes but his female characters are very well rounded, more well rounded then Moffat's characters from what I've seen.

I don't find everything Moffat writes inherently sexist but he's also crap at character, Joss is much better at character then Moffat is.

That's partially why I can forgive Joss for the problematic issues, because he can write very real and convincing women, and for all the crap he gets at least he does things like support equality now and fights for women's rights.

I'm not sure I have that confidence in Moffat :/

(Anonymous) 2011-06-04 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
That's partially why I can forgive Joss for the problematic issues, because he can write very real and convincing women,

I disagree, but that's a can of worms I'm not really willing to essay about right now. Besides, Cracked said everything I would say already: http://www.cracked.com/article/166_5-reasons-it-sucks-being-joss-whedon-fan/

(Anonymous) 2011-06-04 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, that Cracked article.

Hard to agree when I don't necessarily agree with the premise that Joss' two most artistically successful shows are Firefly and Angel (is this objective fact now?) or that "Joss shoots his actresses most lovingly when they're wet and crying and curled up in the fetal position." Guess I watched different shows then this author.

Also hard to take them seriously when they keep ragging on Eliza Dushku and calling her an "actress" in quotes. She may not be the best ever but the level of blind hatred she receives is really off-putting.
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[personal profile] karel 2011-06-04 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
because he can write very real and convincing women

For real. I can actually relate to this characters, which is a very nice and rare thing, to me. Every writer is going to do problematic things. It is the nature of writing and storytelling.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-04 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah that's exactly where I was coming from, I can relate to Joss's characters, things they've felt I've also felt. And even when things were supernatural in nature I could relate the the overall theme of what the character was going through.

When I bond with characters that way I am in it all the way for better or worse, because they are real people. It's especially great to have female characters who are written that way because you're right, it really is rare.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-04 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Pretty much exactly what I came here to say. Totally disagree with the opinion that Joss' characters aren't relatable or well rounded and Moffat's are. I've liked season 5 and 6 well enough but Moffat's biggest weakness as a writer is character development, imo.