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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-10 07:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1620 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1620 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.
[Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae wo Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai]



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02.
[Hetalia]


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03.
[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]


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04.
[Michael Silas/Asiel Hardison, Lady Gaga's dancers]


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05.
[Tiger & Bunny]


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06.
[Evangelion]


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07.
[Zero Punctuation]


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08.
[The Catherine Tate Show]


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09.
[Grimgrimoire]


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10.
[wonderful days, guyver, cowboy bebop, texhnolyze, togainu no chi, black lagoon, samurai champloo, aishiteruze baby, tenjo tenge]


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11.
[X-Men: First Class]


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12.
[Tales of the Abyss]


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13.
[Human Target]


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14.
[A Song of Ice and Fire]


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15.
[Masterchef Australia]


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16.
[Sucker Punch]


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17.
[Mystique]


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18.
[Workaholics]


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19.
[Mark Reads]


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20.
[Jamie Campbell Bower ]


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21.
[Hey Arnold!]












[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]












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22. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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23. [SPOILERS for Gintama]



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24. [SPOILERS for Kamen Rider Kabuto]



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25. [SPOILERS for Loveless]



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26. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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27. [SPOILERS for Mockingjay]



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28. [SPOILERS for Kung Fu Panda 2]

















[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]


















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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for non-con]



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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[Game of Thrones]


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31. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]



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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for transphobia?]



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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[SPN]


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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, pedophilia]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-injury, suicide]

[Manic Street Preachers]






Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #231.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
33.
http://i51.tinypic.com/s3ivyb.png

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Nitpick: A transvestite isn't the same as a transgendered person, it's someone who enjoys wearing the clothes of the opposite gender, either for fetish reasons or just because they feel like it. For example, Eddie Izzard is a transvestite, but he is not transgendered. In theory a transgendered person could also be a transvestite, but I don't think it's common.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-06-12 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, Izzard has said that he DOES ID as transgendered, but that he has chosen not to transition because he thinks it would ruin his career.

And lol, different social circles here I'm sure, but transgender people doing drag? Allatime.

[identity profile] shukivengeance.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Transvestite and transgender aren't the same thing. You're the confused one here, love.

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Also those look to be some very manly duds anyway, in a fetishistic gay way.

[identity profile] shukivengeance.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah if anything he looks like a leather-daddy Waluigi. Is it just me or did OP seem to sorta imply that all transvestites are gay too?

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think so, I think they were referring to Ash specifically. Though 'trasngenders' used as a noun is just...weird.

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(Anonymous) - 2011-06-11 05:33 (UTC) - Expand

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I never thought I would see a secret featuring Ash on f!s. Ash is just a big gay stereotype anyway.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
gay outfit huh

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Now you really want a fight, bring up Poison.

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
This is confusing. Transvestite =/=transgender =/=gay

Sounds like you don't know the difference, either.

[identity profile] xenafox.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it's already been said.

But still ARGH cannot. hammer. it. into. someone's. brain. enough. TRANSVESTITE =/= TRANSGENDER. Please, PLEASE look up your terms before writing about them, in secret form or not x.x

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure you're taking things too seriously, OP. Your friend wants to do a parody video of a fighting game character with a ridiculous outfit. Doesn't sound transphobic to me.

[identity profile] doktordeathray.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
This secret was really embarrassing to read.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
transvestites and transgendered people are different tho

transvestites and gay people are different too

[identity profile] 8bitcat.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
How is not understanding / caring about the difference between to things "phobic?"

I was under the impression that a phobia was a fear.

[identity profile] 8bitcat.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
*two

Fuck my eyesight, today.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
Technically speaking, yes a "phobia" is a fear. Colloquially, however, it is often used to denote an intolerance or prejudice against a group of people. The word "homophobic" being the most common example. It is used to mean a hatred of homosexuals with or without fear.
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[identity profile] hey-feygele.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
Phobia also means aversion. Lipids aren't hydrophobic because they are somehow secretly scared of water at a molecular level, they're just repelled by it.

Ummm but the only transphobia I really see in the secret is, uh, OP's aversion to realizing that transgender and transvestite don't mean the same things, I guess? But I have a feeling English might not be OP's first language, so I don't know, I don't think it's really fair to criticize them harshly for their confusion of terms.

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Short answer: Words are more than the sum of their parts. Homophobia does not mean 'fear of the same', despite its roots.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Erf. OP, you yourself are also very confused - it isn't just as simple as 'gay man' or 'transgender' - the word you are looking for is TRANSVESTITE. It's when a man dresses like a woman but it has nothing to do with his sexuality, and also has nothing to do with how much or little of his 'manliness' is shown. Transvestites can be anything from full-on female impersonator with an effort to show absolutely no masculinity to still having some masculine facial apppearance or mannerisms/affectations, etc while wearing women's clothing and dresses, combining the masculine and feminine.

It bothers me when people lump transgender peopel together with transvestites (which happens quite often).

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
You, my friend, are well-meaning but unfortunately unlearned on the subject.

"Transgender" is not a noun. It's an adjective. "Transgender people" or just "transpeople" (transman, transwoman, etc.) gets the idea across. "Transsexual" can be a noun, but it's a word that many transgender and otherwise non-cisgender people do not identity with or otherwise have issues with.

"Transvestite" is someone who likes to wear clothing meant for the opposite sex, for whatever reason. So if "fetish type outfits" are frilly maid skirts and whatnot, then yes, you could argue that he is a transvestite. (Though the word "transvestite" is fraught with its own issues.)

"Fetish type outfits" and "sexy gay outfits" are not necessarily the same thing. In fact, I think the only difference between "straight fetish outfits" and "gay fetish outfits" is the sex of the people wearing them while having sex.

"It's obvious that Ash is NOT transgender because he still has his manly features." WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. I know you don't mean it this way, but this is a method of erasing or denying trans people. Someone is trans if they identify as trans. A transwoman may have facial hair and pecs and a bass voice and a dick, she may like football and duck hunting and motorcycles and porn, but if she considers herself a woman, SHE IS A WOMAN. Period. She may not fall into traditional ideas of womanhood, but SHE IS A WOMAN. There are plenty of reasons a transwoman may still present as male, and that does NOT diminish or lessen her status as a woman. PERIOD.

I know absolutely nothing about the fandom in question, so I know absolutely nothing about the sexuality, gender presentation or gender identity of the character in question. What I do know is that your argument is confused and flawed, and I strongly recommend that you learn a bit more on the subject before trying to make another argument about it.

[identity profile] zyxwvutsrq321.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
i really love this comment

(Anonymous) 2011-06-11 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
transvestite=/=transexual

That said, I don't see a transvestite goin' on in that picture, either.

Post-op, pre-op?

(Anonymous) 2011-06-13 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
So he "can't be transgender because he has man parts."

That's not correct. You CAN be transgender and still have the same parts. It's called not having the operation done yet. I know a trangendered girl who is going to be FTM once (s)he finally can afford the treatment and all.

Now I call "her" he. He binds his chest and all for now.

OP, you REALLY need to learn more about the trans culture before you make a statement.