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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-10 07:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1620 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1620 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.
[Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae wo Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai]



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02.
[Hetalia]


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03.
[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]


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04.
[Michael Silas/Asiel Hardison, Lady Gaga's dancers]


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05.
[Tiger & Bunny]


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06.
[Evangelion]


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07.
[Zero Punctuation]


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08.
[The Catherine Tate Show]


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09.
[Grimgrimoire]


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10.
[wonderful days, guyver, cowboy bebop, texhnolyze, togainu no chi, black lagoon, samurai champloo, aishiteruze baby, tenjo tenge]


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11.
[X-Men: First Class]


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12.
[Tales of the Abyss]


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13.
[Human Target]


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14.
[A Song of Ice and Fire]


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15.
[Masterchef Australia]


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16.
[Sucker Punch]


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17.
[Mystique]


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18.
[Workaholics]


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19.
[Mark Reads]


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20.
[Jamie Campbell Bower ]


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21.
[Hey Arnold!]












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22. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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23. [SPOILERS for Gintama]



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24. [SPOILERS for Kamen Rider Kabuto]



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25. [SPOILERS for Loveless]



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26. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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27. [SPOILERS for Mockingjay]



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28. [SPOILERS for Kung Fu Panda 2]

















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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for non-con]



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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[Game of Thrones]


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31. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]



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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for transphobia?]



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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[SPN]


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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, pedophilia]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-injury, suicide]

[Manic Street Preachers]






Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #231.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
That scene with her and Jaime? I have practically seen that fight, when dudes encounter a woman physically stronger and hardier than them, and the shock they go through. It takes serious security to write that, as a male author, whereas most handwave all women winning a swordfight with cleverness/speed/flexibility/grace/blahblahblah even though that's absolutely not how sword-and-board fighting actually operates. Basically, whatever tawdry excuse they can come up with for why she can win whilst wearing 80 lbs of armour in a fight all about power and reach and still be some lithe fragile supermodel.

GRRM has stones, to write that. He may actually have seen that kind of swordfight before. The haters sound like they haven't even read the fucking books.

[identity profile] demishock.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
All of this. And then on the other side, we have Sam, the self-proclaimed craven who is a man of good family but can't/won't fight at all, despite it being expected of him, and prefers books and spending time with his mother.

Never mind that whole family that sends their women into battle (the Mormonts, maybe? There are so many characters in these books I can never remember all their names. @__@). And Margaery Tyrell. And Melisandre. And all the wildling women we've encountered. And... Yeah, I have no idea why people think the female characters in this series suck. I really don't.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I have no idea why people think the female characters in this series suck. I really don't.

Because all female characters ever suck, unless they are exactly like how you would write them.

Seriously, GRRM has always amazed me for how well his female characters turn out in his semi-realistic fanta-historical work. He has representations of women who are traditionally feminine but strong (Catelyn) and traditionally masculine and strong (Brienne) and those who blend the traits of both (Daenerys). The message is uncompromisingly awesome: be yourself and be awesome, because there's no "ideal" womanhood - or manhood - out there.

[identity profile] demishock.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
The more I analyze them, the more impressed I become. And I've only read the books ONCE so far, so again, really not understanding how people are missing this. (It might help if I ever saw anyone argue it with anything other than, "Because I said so".) I'm planning to start a re-read very soon, since the new book is coming (only reason I haven't started is because I didn't want to spend the whole season watching Game of Thrones with the book fresh in my mind for comparison). :)

But really, that's exactly it. His characters are all PEOPLE. Real, believable people. They all have faults, they all have values, they all do their own thing... They're not a bunch of cardboard cut-out stereotypes. The gender roles exist, but there are plenty of characters who blatantly deviate, and their society around them, being what it is, reacts just as you'd expect. It's really rather refreshing, IMO.