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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-10 07:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1620 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1620 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.
[Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae wo Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai]



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02.
[Hetalia]


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03.
[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]


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04.
[Michael Silas/Asiel Hardison, Lady Gaga's dancers]


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05.
[Tiger & Bunny]


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06.
[Evangelion]


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07.
[Zero Punctuation]


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08.
[The Catherine Tate Show]


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09.
[Grimgrimoire]


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10.
[wonderful days, guyver, cowboy bebop, texhnolyze, togainu no chi, black lagoon, samurai champloo, aishiteruze baby, tenjo tenge]


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11.
[X-Men: First Class]


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12.
[Tales of the Abyss]


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13.
[Human Target]


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14.
[A Song of Ice and Fire]


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15.
[Masterchef Australia]


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16.
[Sucker Punch]


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17.
[Mystique]


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18.
[Workaholics]


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19.
[Mark Reads]


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20.
[Jamie Campbell Bower ]


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21.
[Hey Arnold!]












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22. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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23. [SPOILERS for Gintama]



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24. [SPOILERS for Kamen Rider Kabuto]



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25. [SPOILERS for Loveless]



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26. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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27. [SPOILERS for Mockingjay]



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28. [SPOILERS for Kung Fu Panda 2]

















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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for non-con]



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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[Game of Thrones]


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31. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]



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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for transphobia?]



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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[SPN]


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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, pedophilia]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-injury, suicide]

[Manic Street Preachers]






Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #231.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] tuff-ghost.livejournal.com 2011-06-12 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
your original claims of misogyny

You should scroll up and find those for me.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-06-12 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Its world is definitely misogynistic, and the closest it comes to examining/interrogating that is simplistic male rape-avenger fantasy.

The story doesn't need to be misogynistic itself to uphold misogynistic conventions. It contains a huge, glaring, complex subject, and fails to speak interestingly on that subject.


Well, that was easy.

Admittedly your accusations of misogyny in the text refer to the "world" and not the "story" but they are nevertheless there.

But I see we're at the point in the conversation where you leap desperately on whatever single sentence might give you any foothold back into the discussion. Better luck with the next one; this one didn't pan out for you.

[identity profile] tuff-ghost.livejournal.com 2011-06-12 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, "admittedly" I didn't make the claim you said I did.

Better luck.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-06-12 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, yeah... you did. And you've completely failed to address any of the points I made in the post, save, apparently "GRRM created a misogynistic world and upholds misogynistic conventions with his writing totes =/= accusation of misogyny, why no I'm not backpedalling at all, what does this look like to you".

Is "those are not the exact words I used, so there, even if the meaning is identical" really all you've got? Even in the face of flagrant gender essentialism and factual errors about the books your criticizing? Really?