[ SECRET POST #1626 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1626 ⌋


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Comments

[silver-coins.livejournal.com]

It's implied that he does this with all the orphaned students, though, isn't it? Tom wasn't his responsibility. And even if he was it still wouldn't be his fault. That's like blaming a killers mother for kidnapping and killing a bunch of kids; it's ridiculous. The fault lies with Tom and possibly the people who made the house-system stay in place at the time, not Dumbledore.

Also, why Albus? How about his real parents? The headmaster? The people working at the orphanage? Why are we blaming a random teacher that recruited him into the school? It just seems like you're looking terribly hard for a reason to hate him here, tbh.

[wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com]

It's implied that he does this with all the orphaned students, though, isn't it? Tom wasn't his responsibility.

Yes, he certainly was. The fact that Dumbledore keeps such a close eye on Harry when he first comes to Hogwarts points to the fact that Dumbledore had a similar responsibility once and he dropped the ball.

That's like blaming a killers mother for kidnapping and killing a bunch of kids; it's ridiculous.

I'd say it's more like meeting the killer at the point in time that there's a very high chance you can stop them from ever becoming that person and doing nothing to try to prevent it. Had Dumbledore tried then to take Tom under his wing or curtail his behavior, I would more easily say "OK he tried but Tom was just not having it." Then again, I don't buy into the whole "Born good, born bad" thing JK was selling in the novels so I guess that's why.

It's obvious that Tom wasn't high on his family's list of Important Things. Contemptible but having a child =/= taking that child as your responsibility, which is unfortunate. His home life was seriously fucked up but his parents never came with the intent to help him become a better person and teach him a different better world. Dumbledore is the one who brought Ton to Hogwarts. The people at the orphanage couldn't control a hostile magical child and Dumbledore came and took him. He met Tom firsthand and he knew what Tom was capable of doing, that he was capable of hurting people viciously at a very young age.

I don't hate Dumbledore. Far from it actually. But I'm not gonna ignore the fact that I think he really flubbed it when Tom was at school. I think it's a driving force behind his serious paternal feelings towards Harry. Not wanting to make the same mistake twice and all that jazz.

[silver-coins.livejournal.com]

I disagree. And I don't think I can really argue it either because we disagree on the main argument. I don't think parents, siblings, abusive boy/girl-friends etc etc are ever to blame for someone being abusive towards someone. Dumbledore might not have been the perfect teacher, but I personally find it completely unfair to say that he's to blame for Voldemort becoming a massmurdering muggle-hater. So, yeah, YMMV I guess.