[ SECRET POST #161 ]

[degrees.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #161 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

*nods* I completely understand that. I'm just personally more annoyed at the counter-reaction that goes something like "anyone who openly admits to liking anime style is a childish weeaboo," "he has anime icons so he MUST be a weeaboo" or "OMG how DARE you self-identify as otaku/hikikomori/EGL/other Japanese subculture you are SUCH a fucking weeaboo!" or "you actually think a manga is one of the best books you've read? Read moar, weeaboo." Stuff like that makes me want to slap anyone who view 4Chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica as anything but troll crap.

[kinneas.livejournal.com]

I'm an EDer and 4chan person myself, but throwing around weeaboo is pretty counter-productive to the term itself. It's like people who toss Mary Sue onto any character they dislike---it demeans the term and makes it less applicable for people who ACTUALLY FIT THE DESCRIPTION.

Generally I don't think of people as weeaboos unless they are truly Wapanese; ie, people that genuinely wish they were Japanese or proudly proclaim themselves otaku with no understanding of the word's stigma or meaning.

(...But I would be lying if I said I didn't look down on people when they say they prefer anime style to other art styles no holds barred, because anime technically is a commercialized way of skimping out.)

In the end, there are a lot worse people and a lot more to make fun of on the internet (hello babyfurs) than people who like Bleach.

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

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I'm an EDer and 4chan person myself

My apologies then. I've met so many people who hang around both that are total assholes that I'm rather jaded about everyone there. Just as most of them are probably rather jaded about me. ~_^

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but throwing around weeaboo is pretty counter-productive to the term itself. It's like people who toss Mary Sue onto any character they dislike---it demeans the term and makes it less applicable for people who ACTUALLY FIT THE DESCRIPTION.

Word.

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Generally I don't think of people as weeaboos unless they are truly Wapanese; ie, people that genuinely wish they were Japanese or proudly proclaim themselves otaku with no understanding of the word's stigma or meaning.

The former, I don't even think should be called weeaboo *if* it's for a reason (e.g. wanting to have known the language from childhood, truly understanding the culture and wanting to have a level of integration Westerners, due to the xenophobia, might never have. On a personal note, I've wished I was Japanese at points so I could know the language, and most recently so I could post a rant about Yuka Tojo's asshattery and why people need to stand up against rightwing nationalism and the like without it never meeting anyone who needs to see it)

But yeah, anyone who calls himself or herself an otaku or ESPECIALLY a fucking hikikomori without any knowledge or understanding of the stigma, the meaning, the surrounding culture, and without any similarity at all (newsflash: simply watching anime doesn't make you an otaku, and if you have meaningful offline social engagement outside your place of residence, you are *not* a hiki at the time) deserves to be slapped repeatedly with copies of "Welcome To The NHK" and "Densha Otoko."

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(...But I would be lying if I said I didn't look down on people when they say they prefer anime style to other art styles no holds barred, because anime technically is a commercialized way of skimping out.)

I can respect that opinion, yet there's also a lot of variation in "anime style" and I don't see the point in bashing art like that for RahXephon or Cowboy Bebop or Paranoia Agent as if it were exactly the same as art for "Generic Shounen Slugfest 100" or "Overdramatic Shoujo Soap Opera: The Remix."

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In the end, there are a lot worse people and a lot more to make fun of on the internet (hello babyfurs) than people who like Bleach.

Exactly.

[kinneas.livejournal.com]

Wtf, how do you make the forum quote code---wait no I figured it out. SWEET.

there's also a lot of variation in "anime style" and I don't see the point in bashing art like that for RahXephon or Cowboy Bebop or Paranoia Agent as if it were exactly the same as art for "Generic Shounen Slugfest 100" or "Overdramatic Shoujo Soap Opera: The Remix."

Sadly, high-production anime is vastly outnumbered by shitty three-cels-per-minute crap of the season, which is just the worst of the worst in animation and art style. I don't know, my assumption may be incorrect, but it's always seemed to me like bad Eastern animation is MUCH worse than bad Western.

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

I use a Firefox addon to generate it. LJQuote.

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Sadly, high-production anime is vastly outnumbered by shitty three-cels-per-minute crap of the season, which is just the worst of the worst in animation and art style. I don't know, my assumption may be incorrect, but it's always seemed to me like bad Eastern animation is MUCH worse than bad Western.

And that is one among many reasons I usually prefer manga to anime in most fandoms. As in original source and original writer usually means better, I like to read, and the production value is often better simply because if the original artist is good (or at least not awfully horrible and is improving), there's less opportunity for stuff like rushed plots, fillers, and you're much more likely to find quality art.

Or, at least if you're browsing in a store, to go "man, this artist is generic" *look ahead four volumes later and see the same shitty art and amateurish mistakes combined with no story advance at all* "meh, not buying this."