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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-02 02:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #1642 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1642 ⌋


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[identity profile] zelda-dragon.livejournal.com 2011-07-02 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's so much easier to find properly innovative, inventive fantasy in the YA section."

I agree with you on this. I've read a handful of good fantasy from the adult Fantasy & Sci-Fi section (Kim Harrison is, in my opinion, the best, with a few decent others here and there), whereas most of the YA fantasy I read is excellent. Especially some of the older YA books from when I was growing up.


And yeah, I was in Waldenbooks last week, and they had a whole BOOK CASE dedicated to Twilight. Like, a full five shelves for Twilight and its paraphernalia.

[identity profile] kathkin.livejournal.com 2011-07-02 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
There is good adult fantasy, obviously, but it doesn't tend to be the stuff stocked in bookshops. The fantasy sections tend to be tiny - in the bookshop I grew up with it was literally a corner and half the time you were in the way of the stairs. >_< Whereas the YA section doesn't differentiate between genres, which I also like. Though I do now live near a specialist SF and F bookshop. :D

D: Gah. I wouldn't have minded so much except it was in the adult section and everything! If they have to dedicate that much shelfspace to Twilight they could at least put it in the YA section where it belongs.

[identity profile] zelda-dragon.livejournal.com 2011-07-02 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"the YA section doesn't differentiate between genres"

I loved that so much! I don't browse the YA sections anymore - I tend to keep up with favorite authors and that's it now - but when I was actually, you know, a young adult, I could spend hours looking through all of the books and find something new every time. Having everything all mixed together like that is how I was introduced to fantasy books in the first place because it was right in front of me!

Some of the big generic bookstores around here have pretty decently sized F&SF section, but they're mostly what you mentioned before - LotR knockoffs and "new" vampire stuff.

[identity profile] kathkin.livejournal.com 2011-07-02 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It kind of bugs me that the adult section divides everything by genre, especially as they then tend to have a pretty heavy literary fiction/genre fiction distinction. I think that's partly why for years I didn't realise there was such a thing was adult fantasy. xD

Oh god, my bookshop has a subsection of F&SF purely for vampire fiction now. I have no idea if any of it is any good. It is fiarly decently sized, though - like I said, the bookshops in the city near where I grew up had it tucked in a corner and on the landing respectively, they seemed to want to make browsing as hard as possibly.

[identity profile] tazthelemon.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
That's one of my favourite things about YA - as a writer, it's easier to write slipstream, rather than feeling FORCED to adhere to the archetypes and themes that are expected of 'your' genre.

[identity profile] tastylogic.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
When I worked at Borders, our YA section had two parts: Paranormal Romance and everything else. It did make it easy for the oblivious fathers who were shopping for their kids but didn't know what to get them. I had quite a few "Well, if they liked 'Twilight' something here would be good. If not, there's great stuff over here!". The combination of genres made my job so much easier!

[identity profile] kathkin.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure the big bookshop near me keeps Paranormal Romance in with adult F&SF. Not sure if that's better or worse. Though now I'm tempted to go scout around there tomorrow.

[identity profile] tastylogic.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
The YA Paranormal Romance or just Paranormal Romance in general? I know B&N dedicate an entire section of their YA section to YA Paranormal Romance as well. It doesn't help that all the covers tend to look the same XD

[identity profile] kathkin.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 11:30 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure - I tend to buy books online so I don't go in there much, and when I do I don't go to the YA section that often cause it's in the basement and thus a bit tucked away, but they do keep Twilight in with the grown up books. >_< They probably do keep it with YA as well. They definitely have the horrible editions of Bella's favorite books with Twilight-esque covers down there.

[identity profile] tastylogic.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I loathed those covers. I actually had a customer pick up a Twiligh type cover edition of a book and ask me if Meyers wrote that too. It was a Jane Austin novel and I died a little inside.

[identity profile] kathkin.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
On the one hand I like the idea of marketing classic literature to teenagers, but on the other hand... ugh.

[identity profile] tastylogic.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I could deal with it more if the 'Wuthering Heights' cover didn't say "Edward and Bella's favorite" :(